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They're focusing of the enterprise market. Those users are now what matters, because that's where the money is. Individual and family customers will still get t

They're focusing of the enterprise market. Those users are now what matters, because that's where the money is. Individual and family customers will still get their tier of product, but ain't no company-wide business decisions gonna be catered to their whims. And particularly with standalone perpetual licences, which I'm still clinging on to. Sync via DropBox, share a vault with family, and another one with my small team at work. It's perfect, for me. But it just doesn't work for 1Password, financially. No amount of getting upset or whiny will change that. Time to get over it.

SanjayMehta 4y ago
To give 1Password some credit, they haven't broken the standalone licenses yet. Every time the iOS app updates, I suffer from an anxiety attack that sync via dropbox might break. Unsure about a reasonable alternative.
- lgreiv 4y ago
  I have some bad news for you. They are not updating their browser integrations for <= v7 and the newer ones will not work with local vaults. De facto, they are already deprecating standalone licenses/local vaults.
  - SanjayMehta 4y ago
    I'm stuck on macOS 10.15 for various reasons and so far 1password 6.x hasn't broken. Taking your warning as a catalyst to find an alternative.
- drcongo 4y ago
  If you don't need shared vaults, Secrets [0] is excellent and feels a lot like the last good version of 1Password before they started down their current path of destroying both their product and their reputation. [0] https://outercorner.com/secrets-mac/ https://outercorner.com/secrets-mac/
  - rcarmo 4y ago
    This is what I use on the Mac (full disclosure: I know the developer on a personal basis, since we worked together in the past). Only shortcoming for me is the lack of Apple Watch support for a few key things like TOTP and keeping some credit card PINs always on me.
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  - moritz 4y ago
    Can it sync via Wifi?
  - drcongo 4y ago
    Nice to see my sincere recommendation of an excellent product from an indie dev get downvoted. This is why people can't be bothered being nice on HN.
    - SanjayMehta 4y ago
      They forget that at one time 1Password was an obscure indie dev too. I discovered it via a similar recommendation on reddit or slashdot. Will check it out, many thanks.
  - rrdharan 4y ago
    This looks great, thanks!
  - SanjayMehta 3y ago
    Thanks! Just downloaded the trial version and it looks very promising. The ios app has family sharing enabled which is a big plus. And the support is reminiscent of 1Password in their indie days.
onehair 4y ago
While you're free to get over it, I will stick to working with standalone software. I use KeePassXC + DropBox (or any other syncing tool) Ah, and no telemetry there ;-)
- yunwal 4y ago
  Not sure if the winky-face was sarcasm, but in case not, dropbox collects lots of telemetry https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Integrations/Why-So-Much-Telemetry/td-p/455961/page/3 https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Integrations/Why-So-Much-Tel...
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torstenvl 4y ago
> it just doesn't work for 1Password, financially That is clearly not true. 1Password was around for over fifteen years and was profitable well before their Series A-C that set unrealistic growth targets. The financials were sound, which is why a non-startup was able to get that kind of financing at that kind of valuation to begin with.
koliber 4y ago
I just got a notification from 1Password today that the chrome extension will stop working on July 1 and that I need to upgrade. I don’t know if I can continue to use the version I paid for once that happens and might need to move to the subscription. I hope that’s not the case but haven’t looked into it yet. Does anyone know if it will be possible to continue using 1Password past July 1 without a subscription?
- acjacobson 4y ago
  The Firefox extension still works for the moment.
TechRemarker 4y ago
Agreed. Individuals/Families make their opinions clear on the issue publicly and through support channels. But 1P cares about the enterprise market which is much more valuable currently and those clients presumably provide less vocal feedback, so this tool will be more to capture their data to make decisions based on that. It's unfortunate, as 1P is such a great product overall, but like products such as Spark Mail, all seem to end up building on the backs of consumers, to make it to the holy grail of enterprise. Then customers are left with the products aimed for mass market that lacks all the power user features they are accustomed too.
rconti 4y ago
It stopped working for me when I couldn't install the Chrome extension for 1Password 7 on my work machine. I've finally given in, after years of being a licenseholder of 1Password 6 and 7 (and maybe 5?) ... and I'm mixed. Definitely plenty of migration pains, you have to set aside time in your life to make this change. Most of us just want our stuff to keep working the way it worked yesterday, and not have yet another chore in our lives.
- sneed_chucker 3y ago
  > Most of us just want our stuff to keep working the way it worked yesterday, and not have yet another chore in our lives. This rings true for me in so many ways.

SanjayMehta 4y ago

To give 1Password some credit, they haven't broken the standalone licenses yet. Every time the iOS app updates, I suffer from an anxiety attack that sync via dropbox might break. Unsure about a reasonable alternative.

lgreiv 4y ago
I have some bad news for you. They are not updating their browser integrations for <= v7 and the newer ones will not work with local vaults. De facto, they are already deprecating standalone licenses/local vaults.
- SanjayMehta 4y ago
  I'm stuck on macOS 10.15 for various reasons and so far 1password 6.x hasn't broken. Taking your warning as a catalyst to find an alternative.
drcongo 4y ago
If you don't need shared vaults, Secrets [0] is excellent and feels a lot like the last good version of 1Password before they started down their current path of destroying both their product and their reputation. [0] https://outercorner.com/secrets-mac/ https://outercorner.com/secrets-mac/
- rcarmo 4y ago
  This is what I use on the Mac (full disclosure: I know the developer on a personal basis, since we worked together in the past). Only shortcoming for me is the lack of Apple Watch support for a few key things like TOTP and keeping some credit card PINs always on me.
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- moritz 4y ago
  Can it sync via Wifi?
- drcongo 4y ago
  Nice to see my sincere recommendation of an excellent product from an indie dev get downvoted. This is why people can't be bothered being nice on HN.
  - SanjayMehta 4y ago
    They forget that at one time 1Password was an obscure indie dev too. I discovered it via a similar recommendation on reddit or slashdot. Will check it out, many thanks.
- rrdharan 4y ago
  This looks great, thanks!
- SanjayMehta 3y ago
  Thanks! Just downloaded the trial version and it looks very promising. The ios app has family sharing enabled which is a big plus. And the support is reminiscent of 1Password in their indie days.

onehair 4y ago

While you're free to get over it, I will stick to working with standalone software. I use KeePassXC + DropBox (or any other syncing tool) Ah, and no telemetry there ;-)

yunwal 4y ago
Not sure if the winky-face was sarcasm, but in case not, dropbox collects lots of telemetry https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Integrations/Why-So-Much-Telemetry/td-p/455961/page/3 https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Integrations/Why-So-Much-Tel...

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torstenvl 4y ago

> it just doesn't work for 1Password, financially That is clearly not true. 1Password was around for over fifteen years and was profitable well before their Series A-C that set unrealistic growth targets. The financials were sound, which is why a non-startup was able to get that kind of financing at that kind of valuation to begin with.

koliber 4y ago

I just got a notification from 1Password today that the chrome extension will stop working on July 1 and that I need to upgrade. I don’t know if I can continue to use the version I paid for once that happens and might need to move to the subscription. I hope that’s not the case but haven’t looked into it yet. Does anyone know if it will be possible to continue using 1Password past July 1 without a subscription?

acjacobson 4y ago
The Firefox extension still works for the moment.

TechRemarker 4y ago

Agreed. Individuals/Families make their opinions clear on the issue publicly and through support channels. But 1P cares about the enterprise market which is much more valuable currently and those clients presumably provide less vocal feedback, so this tool will be more to capture their data to make decisions based on that. It's unfortunate, as 1P is such a great product overall, but like products such as Spark Mail, all seem to end up building on the backs of consumers, to make it to the holy grail of enterprise. Then customers are left with the products aimed for mass market that lacks all the power user features they are accustomed too.

rconti 4y ago

It stopped working for me when I couldn't install the Chrome extension for 1Password 7 on my work machine. I've finally given in, after years of being a licenseholder of 1Password 6 and 7 (and maybe 5?) ... and I'm mixed. Definitely plenty of migration pains, you have to set aside time in your life to make this change. Most of us just want our stuff to keep working the way it worked yesterday, and not have yet another chore in our lives.

sneed_chucker 3y ago
> Most of us just want our stuff to keep working the way it worked yesterday, and not have yet another chore in our lives. This rings true for me in so many ways.