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I was thinking/wondering this myself. Not to reinvent the wheel - more toss an idea around, but a 'venv for LD_PRELOAD' sounds like it'd deal with this pretty

I was thinking/wondering this myself. Not to reinvent the wheel - more toss an idea around, but a 'venv for LD_PRELOAD' sounds like it'd deal with this pretty handily Not... in a way I'd use as a distribution/release maintainer. Probably as an administrator [of my LAN]

gabcoh 4y ago
Such things already exist. Eg. Appimage or even docker.
- bravetraveler 4y ago
  Right, but I don't really want to get into a distribution model - the hack suits me fine :) More an exercise in curiosity than anything Flatpak (or Snap, ew) probably deals with it fine today, Steam's there
- lnxg33k1 4y ago
  and even that has been managed to be split between snap appimage and flatpak :D (sorry not meant to offend, long time linux day-to-day user here, but it was just ironic for me to point out fragmentation of fragmentation ^^)
0x457 4y ago
That's Nix with extra steps.
- bravetraveler 4y ago
  I specifically said I'm not really trying to solution this, lol. More toying with the LD_PRELOAD aspect than anything Nix is neat, and I don't think I've used it enough to be too critical - but in some ways it feels like 'extra steps' I wanted to make a 'reproducible' installation (ala kickstart, not strictly binary)... but it felt very much like distribution work; declaring dependencies and the like
  - 0x457 4y ago
    Oh, nix is an extra mile. A lot could be improved, but that's what I'm using to deal with dependencies.
    - bravetraveler 4y ago
      Gotcha, I don't feel so floundering now! I plan to spend more time with it, I see a lot of merit The amount of control is great, but the docs could use some work. For my simple goals (install Sway, Ansible, some other things) it was a broadsword when I need a butter knife
      - 0x457 4y ago
        What sold me on nix is home-manager and flakes: I can easily bootstrap my environment anywhere nix is available.
never_inline 4y ago
There are tools which overwrite linked libraries, eg: chrpath.

gabcoh 4y ago

Such things already exist. Eg. Appimage or even docker.

bravetraveler 4y ago
Right, but I don't really want to get into a distribution model - the hack suits me fine :) More an exercise in curiosity than anything Flatpak (or Snap, ew) probably deals with it fine today, Steam's there
lnxg33k1 4y ago
and even that has been managed to be split between snap appimage and flatpak :D (sorry not meant to offend, long time linux day-to-day user here, but it was just ironic for me to point out fragmentation of fragmentation ^^)

0x457 4y ago

That's Nix with extra steps.

bravetraveler 4y ago
I specifically said I'm not really trying to solution this, lol. More toying with the LD_PRELOAD aspect than anything Nix is neat, and I don't think I've used it enough to be too critical - but in some ways it feels like 'extra steps' I wanted to make a 'reproducible' installation (ala kickstart, not strictly binary)... but it felt very much like distribution work; declaring dependencies and the like
- 0x457 4y ago
  Oh, nix is an extra mile. A lot could be improved, but that's what I'm using to deal with dependencies.
  - bravetraveler 4y ago
    Gotcha, I don't feel so floundering now! I plan to spend more time with it, I see a lot of merit The amount of control is great, but the docs could use some work. For my simple goals (install Sway, Ansible, some other things) it was a broadsword when I need a butter knife
    - 0x457 4y ago
      What sold me on nix is home-manager and flakes: I can easily bootstrap my environment anywhere nix is available.

never_inline 4y ago

There are tools which overwrite linked libraries, eg: chrpath.