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The main purpose of a home "safe" is fire protection. If my house burns down, the contents of my safe should be fine. Obviously a sufficiently motivated adversa

The main purpose of a home "safe" is fire protection. If my house burns down, the contents of my safe should be fine. Obviously a sufficiently motivated adversary can get in. But that (usually) isn't something I am worried about. Most internet hackers do not physically break into houses and open safes.

organsnyder 3y ago
Yeah, we actually keep the key in the lock in ours. If someone gets in and really wants to steal it (note to potential thieves: there isn't anything worth your while), they could just carry the whole safe with them. It's only for preserving important documents in case of fire.
- kbenson 3y ago
  Many safes allow for securing to the floor, making porting it away require a bit more effort, possibly including power tools which are quite loud. Also they're quite heavy usually. I remember as a child someone broke into our house while we were away to steal stuff. The safe wasn't bolted down, and they carried it from one end of the house to the other before giving up, either because they got spooked by something and bolted or because it was just too damn heavy. Think about the logistics of it. If they're stealing a safe, that probably requires a vehicle. A vehicle is more identifiable and unless stolen makes it easier to track people if noticed or recorded. If stolen, there's a chance it will cause a problem immediately before, during or after the crime. If they don't use a vehicle, all the benefits of not using one, such as being able to take non-road paths and blend into crowds are negated. And if they choose to crack the safe on location, that adds time to the crime while doing so, and all time spent at the location of the crime increases the chance they'll be caught because someone notes something suspicious. Like a lock on a house a safe within a house serves it's purpose not by making it impossible to gain access but by making it much more troublesome and likely to be noticed, changing the risk to reward ratio.
wintogreen74 3y ago
Th "protection" from home safes is a joke: typically 30-60 minutes at temperatures less than the heat generated by a house fire.
- lapetitejort 3y ago
  The house next door to me caught fire. By the time I saw the flames from my window and ran out the door, the fire truck was already preparing to douse the flames. Yes, I am lucky to live in an area with fast responses; no, not everyone is so lucky, yadda yadda yadda. But safes help. So do fire extinguishers. Get one for every floor in your house.
- NavinF 3y ago
  30-60 minutes is a very long time, do fire departments normally take that long to start dumping water on the house? Some site says "NFPA Standard 1710 establishes a 320 second or 5 minutes and 20 seconds 'response time' goal for not less than 90% of these type incidents."
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organsnyder 3y ago

Yeah, we actually keep the key in the lock in ours. If someone gets in and really wants to steal it (note to potential thieves: there isn't anything worth your while), they could just carry the whole safe with them. It's only for preserving important documents in case of fire.

kbenson 3y ago
Many safes allow for securing to the floor, making porting it away require a bit more effort, possibly including power tools which are quite loud. Also they're quite heavy usually. I remember as a child someone broke into our house while we were away to steal stuff. The safe wasn't bolted down, and they carried it from one end of the house to the other before giving up, either because they got spooked by something and bolted or because it was just too damn heavy. Think about the logistics of it. If they're stealing a safe, that probably requires a vehicle. A vehicle is more identifiable and unless stolen makes it easier to track people if noticed or recorded. If stolen, there's a chance it will cause a problem immediately before, during or after the crime. If they don't use a vehicle, all the benefits of not using one, such as being able to take non-road paths and blend into crowds are negated. And if they choose to crack the safe on location, that adds time to the crime while doing so, and all time spent at the location of the crime increases the chance they'll be caught because someone notes something suspicious. Like a lock on a house a safe within a house serves it's purpose not by making it impossible to gain access but by making it much more troublesome and likely to be noticed, changing the risk to reward ratio.

wintogreen74 3y ago

Th "protection" from home safes is a joke: typically 30-60 minutes at temperatures less than the heat generated by a house fire.

lapetitejort 3y ago
The house next door to me caught fire. By the time I saw the flames from my window and ran out the door, the fire truck was already preparing to douse the flames. Yes, I am lucky to live in an area with fast responses; no, not everyone is so lucky, yadda yadda yadda. But safes help. So do fire extinguishers. Get one for every floor in your house.
NavinF 3y ago
30-60 minutes is a very long time, do fire departments normally take that long to start dumping water on the house? Some site says "NFPA Standard 1710 establishes a 320 second or 5 minutes and 20 seconds 'response time' goal for not less than 90% of these type incidents."

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