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At this point in my life, I think I would quite happily become a tradie. Would anyone pay me a living wage whilst I was an apprentice? No. Will the government t

by rcarr 3y ago

At this point in my life, I think I would quite happily become a tradie. Would anyone pay me a living wage whilst I was an apprentice? No. Will the government top up my wages so I can survive whilst on the apprenticeship? No. Will the government offer free or subsidised training so I can learn in my spare time whilst working another job? No. Will the government give a bunch of money away to their mates in dodgy covid contracts? Yes. Will they let bankers get away with tanking the entire economy? Yes. Will they do anything and everything they possibly can to support landlords who don't offer anything productive to the economy? Yes. In the words of the Joker, you get what you fucking deserve.

Panzer04 3y ago
The clear best option would be to get rid of the apprenticeship system - test for what they actually care about, greatly shorten the working experience period (engineers have to do 3-6mo on an education). If it was possible to get a sparky license in 3-6 months I’d probably do it!
- rootusrootus 3y ago
  My bet is everyone who's gone through the process of becoming a journeyman or master electrician would fight tooth and nail to keep the apprenticeship system. It's not going away.
- MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
  They tried this here in Germany. The problem is that masters then have no incentive to teach the young, because they will jump ship ASAP, and the general quality level of the whole trade degrades. I think they rolled back some of that.
rootusrootus 3y ago
At this point, I'd happily become a tradie if I could skip the slaving away part and go directly to owning the business. I know someone who did that, and totally illegally. Told his customers he was a licensed electrician but it was actually one of his employees' licenses he was giving. Got away with it while he earned his way into his own license. More risk than my personal tolerance would allow.
- andrewmcwatters 3y ago
  Yeah, this is basically the current way to get into the market in Phoenix.

by rcarr 3y ago

Panzer04 3y ago

The clear best option would be to get rid of the apprenticeship system - test for what they actually care about, greatly shorten the working experience period (engineers have to do 3-6mo on an education). If it was possible to get a sparky license in 3-6 months I’d probably do it!

rootusrootus 3y ago
My bet is everyone who's gone through the process of becoming a journeyman or master electrician would fight tooth and nail to keep the apprenticeship system. It's not going away.
MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
They tried this here in Germany. The problem is that masters then have no incentive to teach the young, because they will jump ship ASAP, and the general quality level of the whole trade degrades. I think they rolled back some of that.

rootusrootus 3y ago

At this point, I'd happily become a tradie if I could skip the slaving away part and go directly to owning the business. I know someone who did that, and totally illegally. Told his customers he was a licensed electrician but it was actually one of his employees' licenses he was giving. Got away with it while he earned his way into his own license. More risk than my personal tolerance would allow.

andrewmcwatters 3y ago
Yeah, this is basically the current way to get into the market in Phoenix.