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I never said anything about the US system being all flowers and roses, my main critique is the EU system is not working in its current form, let me give you cit
by subsubzero 3y ago
I never said anything about the US system being all flowers and roses, my main critique is the EU system is not working in its current form, let me give you citations as you are just throwing unrelated stuff out about the US's shortcomings and not actually citing any of my issues with the EU which are very apparent.
> a failed covid-19 vaccine rollout [1]
[1] - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/opinion/europe-vaccines-commission.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/opinion/europe-vaccines-c...
and https://www.statista.com/chart/24471/covid-19-vaccine-doses-per-100-people/ https://www.statista.com/chart/24471/covid-19-vaccine-doses-...
> EU bureaucracy trying to nickel and dime vaccine makers
The effective mrna vaccines(moderna/pfizer), and non-mrna(JnJ) were funded under operation warp speed in the US, and when the vaccine makers were negotiating with the EU, the EU tried to get absolute rock bottom prices which led to shortages and needless deaths[2].
[2] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8426978/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8426978/
and https://unherd.com/2021/02/why-the-eu-lost-the-vaccine-war/ https://unherd.com/2021/02/why-the-eu-lost-the-vaccine-war/
> The US and other Asian countries have these issues with birthrates as well but they do have economies that are innovative
Because Germany closing all of its clean nuclear power plants is innovative? [3]
[3] - https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/18/germany-shuts-down-last-nuclear-power-plants-some-scientists-aghast.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/18/germany-shuts-down-last-nucl...
You mentioned diabetes like it isn't prevalent in the EU, well lets debunk that quickly[4], the UK, Germany and Italy all had more diabetes deaths than the US(all data from 2021):
[4] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1081226/diabetes-related-deaths-in-europe/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1081226/diabetes-related...
and for the US - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/diabetes.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/diabetes.htm
- twixfel 3y agoThe average American has the same life expectancy as the people from the shittiest and most impoverished part of my European country. The problem with US health and healthcare is real and much worse than in Europe.
- subsubzero 3y agoerr.. looking at data shows average life expectancy is actually higher in the US than the average in the Europe(not defending the US health care system here!): US - 79.11 years, source - https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/life-expectancy https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/life... Europe - 79.09 years, source - https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/eur/europe/life-expectancy https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/eur/europe/life-expect...
- twixfel 3y agosource: https://www.ft.com/content/653bbb26-8a22-4db3-b43d-c34a0b774303 https://www.ft.com/content/653bbb26-8a22-4db3-b43d-c34a0b774... But yes if we want to strictly compare literally all of Europe with all of the USA then we have to get into the business of debating the merits of the Russian and Azerbaijani healthcare systems. No thanks.