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Bill O’Reilly never recovered. The question is, is there some sex scandal or other dirty secret behind this?

gjsman-1000 3y ago
Most likely, as CNBC insinuates, it's tied to the Dominion Voting Defamation Settlement. They settled out of court for a huge sum... but who knows if some other conditions were attached. It's hard for me to believe that it was voluntary considering his commercial success. If that is the case, this is not a Bill O'Reilly situation. He'll bounce back like nothing happened.
ModernMech 3y ago
Tucker Carlson's private texts are public record now. They reveal he hates Trump and considers him quote: "a demonic force". Now that we know he really thinks of Trump, he's off Fox's brand. So of course he's out.
- gjsman-1000 3y ago
  I don't think that would be the issue. One reason is that it can easily be explained away: That was a quote from Dominion's own legal motion and retelling of the evidence, and Fox's response to that motion (which supposedly contains context) was sealed. At least according to Fox, but there's no reason their viewers wouldn't buy that.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > One reason is that it can easily be explained away Only to have that explanation (if it isn’t true and clearly verifiable from evidence) steamrollered as the SmartMatic case rolls on in the wake of Dominion?
    - gjsman-1000 3y ago
      The question was less about whether or not SmartMatic and Dominion's case was true, as whether it would damage Tucker Carlson's or other host's reputation and brand. I don't think that the legal case is going to damage their reputation with their fans one ounce. And this isn't necessary some "right wing delusion" either, both sides protect their own. Blackface didn't end Trudeau's career. French Laundry hasn't ended Newsom.
      - dragonwriter 3y ago
        SmartMatic is likely to have the same evidence (at issue here) that Dominion had and to use it similarly to how Dominion did (and would have at trial). So, explaining stuff away that might be easy to explain away in the wake of the Dominion settlement because the full context did not come out in that case may be more complicated because the same issues and much of the same evidence are being litigated in SmartMatic, and what did not get fully explored in Dominion may well do so in SmartMatic.
- ZeroGravitas 3y ago
  Fox was trying to pivote away from Trump, but that appears to have failed, so I think this is likely the reason. Fox doesn't want any of their starts drifting close to sane, factual takes on anything, even in private text messages.
retrocryptid 3y ago
Well... there is the gender discrimination case against him that's currently going through the courts. But main-stream Republicans tend to like abusive men, so he's likely to only get more popular. At least with republicans.
- porkbeer 3y ago
  Your ignorant and hateful speech has no place here. I get that its fun to make up strawmen, but it's counterproductive to discourse.

Most likely, as CNBC insinuates, it's tied to the Dominion Voting Defamation Settlement. They settled out of court for a huge sum... but who knows if some other conditions were attached. It's hard for me to believe that it was voluntary considering his commercial success. If that is the case, this is not a Bill O'Reilly situation. He'll bounce back like nothing happened.

ModernMech 3y ago

Tucker Carlson's private texts are public record now. They reveal he hates Trump and considers him quote: "a demonic force". Now that we know he really thinks of Trump, he's off Fox's brand. So of course he's out.

gjsman-1000 3y ago
I don't think that would be the issue. One reason is that it can easily be explained away: That was a quote from Dominion's own legal motion and retelling of the evidence, and Fox's response to that motion (which supposedly contains context) was sealed. At least according to Fox, but there's no reason their viewers wouldn't buy that.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > One reason is that it can easily be explained away Only to have that explanation (if it isn’t true and clearly verifiable from evidence) steamrollered as the SmartMatic case rolls on in the wake of Dominion?
  - gjsman-1000 3y ago
    The question was less about whether or not SmartMatic and Dominion's case was true, as whether it would damage Tucker Carlson's or other host's reputation and brand. I don't think that the legal case is going to damage their reputation with their fans one ounce. And this isn't necessary some "right wing delusion" either, both sides protect their own. Blackface didn't end Trudeau's career. French Laundry hasn't ended Newsom.
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      SmartMatic is likely to have the same evidence (at issue here) that Dominion had and to use it similarly to how Dominion did (and would have at trial). So, explaining stuff away that might be easy to explain away in the wake of the Dominion settlement because the full context did not come out in that case may be more complicated because the same issues and much of the same evidence are being litigated in SmartMatic, and what did not get fully explored in Dominion may well do so in SmartMatic.
ZeroGravitas 3y ago
Fox was trying to pivote away from Trump, but that appears to have failed, so I think this is likely the reason. Fox doesn't want any of their starts drifting close to sane, factual takes on anything, even in private text messages.

retrocryptid 3y ago

Well... there is the gender discrimination case against him that's currently going through the courts. But main-stream Republicans tend to like abusive men, so he's likely to only get more popular. At least with republicans.

porkbeer 3y ago
Your ignorant and hateful speech has no place here. I get that its fun to make up strawmen, but it's counterproductive to discourse.