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You can solve this problem with branding. Have a "Windows OS Bleeding Edge" brand that changes regularly. Have "Windows OS LTS" brand that changes less often.

notarget137 3y ago
They have tried exactly that with Windows 10 LTSC. And killed it off quite qucikly.
- pdntspa 3y ago
  It was gimped from the start, LTSB/LTSC was never available to the general public
- gruez 3y ago
  >And killed it off quite qucikly. Evidently not, considering there were 4 such releases. The earliest was on July 29, 2015, and the latest was on November 16, 2021 and will be supported until January 13, 2032.
- creatonez 3y ago
  It hasn't been killed off. Microsoft has confirmed publicly that Windows 11 will have an LTSC release. Curious what they will do about Microsoft Store apps in such a release. It's becoming more of a pressing concern. Maybe Windows 11 LTSC will have a "filtered flathub" situation similar to Red Hat / Fedora?
- logifail 3y ago
  > [..] Windows 10 LTSC. And killed it off quite qucikly They really didn't. Full disclosure: I installed Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 on a brand new laptop earlier today :) For this specific device, my wish is a Windows-compatible OS that's going to shut up and stay out of the way, and it seems the LTSC variant of Win10 is the closest Microsoft are willing to provide at the moment. That LTSC doesn't come with Edge, Cortana or the Windows Store, well that's just the icing on the cake.
LarryDarrell 3y ago
Or just have two Desktop Environments. One for the hoi polloi where the designers can go wild and the bean counters can push MSN "news", and one for Enterprise/Professionals that is more or less "Classic".
- bouke 3y ago
  Like the good old times with Windows ME and 2000!
  - vetinari 3y ago
    NT4 and 2000. Please leave Windows ME behind closed doors, thank you.
    - bouke 3y ago
      No NT4 is of the same lineage as 2000. I was referring to the other lineage of Windows with ME being the last one. The unification that XP provided was good for stability, but the eventual result is this whole Windows 11 ordeal.
      - vetinari 3y ago
        I meant the UI; NT4 and 2000 were the nice and clean ones, for enterprise and professionals; ME had already first signs of the cartoon world, that XP continued on. Looking back at the comment, yes, you are right. Both lines could share under the hood stuff, the NT/2000 line with clean UI and the ME line the colorized cartoon one. Or, they could split the line with Home and Pro, both of them they still have.
- wruza 3y ago
  Only very rich corporations like FOSS community can simultaneously support two DEs (especially when one of them never changes too much). Microsoft has neither budget nor enough staff for that.
  - 3y ago

notarget137 3y ago

They have tried exactly that with Windows 10 LTSC. And killed it off quite qucikly.

pdntspa 3y ago
It was gimped from the start, LTSB/LTSC was never available to the general public
gruez 3y ago
>And killed it off quite qucikly. Evidently not, considering there were 4 such releases. The earliest was on July 29, 2015, and the latest was on November 16, 2021 and will be supported until January 13, 2032.
creatonez 3y ago
It hasn't been killed off. Microsoft has confirmed publicly that Windows 11 will have an LTSC release. Curious what they will do about Microsoft Store apps in such a release. It's becoming more of a pressing concern. Maybe Windows 11 LTSC will have a "filtered flathub" situation similar to Red Hat / Fedora?
logifail 3y ago
> [..] Windows 10 LTSC. And killed it off quite qucikly They really didn't. Full disclosure: I installed Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 on a brand new laptop earlier today :) For this specific device, my wish is a Windows-compatible OS that's going to shut up and stay out of the way, and it seems the LTSC variant of Win10 is the closest Microsoft are willing to provide at the moment. That LTSC doesn't come with Edge, Cortana or the Windows Store, well that's just the icing on the cake.

LarryDarrell 3y ago

Or just have two Desktop Environments. One for the hoi polloi where the designers can go wild and the bean counters can push MSN "news", and one for Enterprise/Professionals that is more or less "Classic".

bouke 3y ago
Like the good old times with Windows ME and 2000!
- vetinari 3y ago
  NT4 and 2000. Please leave Windows ME behind closed doors, thank you.
  - bouke 3y ago
    No NT4 is of the same lineage as 2000. I was referring to the other lineage of Windows with ME being the last one. The unification that XP provided was good for stability, but the eventual result is this whole Windows 11 ordeal.
    - vetinari 3y ago
      I meant the UI; NT4 and 2000 were the nice and clean ones, for enterprise and professionals; ME had already first signs of the cartoon world, that XP continued on. Looking back at the comment, yes, you are right. Both lines could share under the hood stuff, the NT/2000 line with clean UI and the ME line the colorized cartoon one. Or, they could split the line with Home and Pro, both of them they still have.
wruza 3y ago
Only very rich corporations like FOSS community can simultaneously support two DEs (especially when one of them never changes too much). Microsoft has neither budget nor enough staff for that.
- 3y ago