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Vodaphone blocks this site for being “18+ content”, I guess because of “hacking” or something? There’s no explanation or option to report a false positive and t
by circuit10 4y ago
Vodaphone blocks this site for being “18+ content”, I guess because of “hacking” or something? There’s no explanation or option to report a false positive and they want you to put in credit card details to confirm your age to unlock it
(I don’t need tips to get around this or anything, I can just connect to another network or use a VPN)
- kypro 4y agoProbably the xx in the domain. In the UK where 20% of the internet is blocked – it's surprising you haven't experienced this before. Call your service provider and tell them you want access to adult material.
- circuit10 4y ago> In the UK where 20% of the internet is blocked That’s not true. I’ve experienced this once before that I can remember, on https://hackmii.com/ https://hackmii.com/ and it doesn’t happen on my home network except on actual scam sites which isn’t a government thing but an ISP feature that can probably be turned off. This is a Vodaphone thing, not a UK thing. I don’t care that much about this specific site, I guess I just want to complain that they don’t have a way to report false positives which maybe isn’t the best reason to post a comment on an unrelated article but still
- Karellen 4y ago> Probably the xx in the domain. According to the `considered-18` post linked by a sibling comment: > It shows that this filter is for this specific host name only [daniel.haxx.se], not for the entire haxx.se domain. So, even more of a WTF.
- techwiz137 4y agoSomeone probably saw daniel, ha, xxx interpreted it "It's me Daniel, ha, this is my porn collection" and flagged it.
- jojobas 4y agoObligatory oi/porn license.
- vidarh 4y ago> In the UK where 20% of the internet is blocked This sounds like an extreme over-estimate. Some ISP's, mostly mobile ones, default to blocking "adult material" unless you tell them to turn that off. Some of the larger ISPs are under court order to block some specific other content (Pirate Bay in particular; my old ISP was one of them, my current ISP happily lets me access it, not that I've ever done so other than to see if it's blocked). Most ISPs block at most a tiny set of sites and personally in 23 years of using UK ISPs I've never "organically" run into those blocks (as in, no site I actually had any interest in accessing has been blocked; I've only seen them when checking whether people were right that a specific site was blocked). And yes, that includes visiting sites with "adult material" without running into any blocks. I do have a VPN, so it'd take me as long to bypass as it takes me to press one button in my browser address bar, but I only need that to evade IP region/country blocks - never needed it to get around UK filtering.
- aflag 4y ago> Call your service provider and tell them you want access to adult material. That must be one awkward call.
- regularfry 4y agoThey overblock, probably intentionally, so it's easy to find a "legit" reason to unblock. It was something really banal for me - I think they'd blocked a furniture site or something.
- viraptor 4y agoAccessing adult material is a legit reason to unblock.
- regularfry 4y agoBuying furniture is a very adult proposition.
- prmoustache 4y agoWhy? They already know a large number of people watch porn.
- aflag 4y agoWe pretend no one does, though.
- bin_bash 4y agohe says in the article they only block "daniel.haxx.se", not other subdomains
- rob74 4y agoTry this one: https://www.xxxlutz.at/ https://www.xxxlutz.at/ (don't worry, it's an Austrian furniture chain).
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- Quarrel 4y agoMy ISP in the UK does not block anything. Even on those that do, 20% seems rather high??
- bagder 4y agoVodafone... https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/02/considered-18/ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/02/considered-18/
- mardifoufs 4y agoSo it's been "on review" for more than a year now?! So the filter is basically unidirectional since they apparently don't care about false positives. I wonder who else uses that filter database provider
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- lutrinus 4y agoSee also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31248250 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31248250
- usr1106 4y agoOh, and Microsoft includes that adult software in their operating system. Can someone report to Vodafone that all Windows PCs must be blocked because they run adult content. Except for those who have deleted curl.exe of course...
- Freak_NL 4y agoTwo xx's. That's almost as bad as three, and surely heuristically naughty.
- circuit10 4y agoIt could also be to do with the word “hack” because https://hackmii.com/ https://hackmii.com/ is blocked too
- version_five 4y agoGood thing there is no shake shack in the UK.
- daveoc64 4y agohttps://www.shakeshack.co.uk/ https://www.shakeshack.co.uk/
- janstice 4y agoAnd yet there is a town called Scunthorpe - I wonder if the inhabitants have trouble getting things delivered?
- vidarh 4y agoIndeed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem
- denton-scratch 4y agoAt one time, a lot of email spam filters would barf on that town's name.
- mysterydip 4y ago"heuristically naughty" may be my new favorite phrase.
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- ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago>(I don’t need tips to get around this or anything, I can just connect to another network or use a VPN) A better solution would be to tell Vodafone to switch off the censorship on your service.
- autoexec 4y agoThe best solution would be the remove whatever stupid law allowed for that kind of censorship in the first place. As a bonus, if the UK puts up a better fight against this stuff it'll make it harder for it spread. Any nation where people have a vote should be strongly rejecting that crap.
- oneeyedpigeon 4y agoI'm happy for an ISP to be allowed to carry out as much censorship as it wants, provided it makes that known. They definitely shouldn't be forced to, though — in the general case — and I don't think anyone's demonstrated that they have been so in this case.
- autoexec 4y ago> I'm happy for an ISP to be allowed to carry out as much censorship as it wants, provided it makes that known. Knowing about it won't help you if every ISP option you have is doing the same thing. Where I live, we have laws that prevent people from interfering with the mail. If I send a letter to someone, once it's accepted the mail carriers can't generally withhold it and make demands before they deliver it or open my letter and remove or change whatever words/pages they feel like before completing delivery. I think the internet should be treated the same. Beyond some basic QOS ISPs should be dumb pipes and be mostly forbidden from messing with things you send/receive over the connection.
- oneeyedpigeon 4y agoI think there's a reasonable need for an ISP to act as a censor, if that's what its customers require. Hopefully, enough people want a censorship-free experience that every provider becoming a censor is unlikely to happen. If your mail service had a "make sure mail from known pornographers doesn't get delivered to my house" option, and you had kids at home, you might well opt for it.
- madeofpalk 4y agoYou can't just disable this 'feature' from Vodafone? I'm in the UK and my ISP doesn't do this. I'm not sure why you would want your ISP interfering with your traffic like this. To me, it seems like a dealbreaker.
- circuit10 4y agoI can if I put in bank card details to confirm my age but it would be better if this didn’t happen in the first place unless there’s actually something 18+ on the site
- concordDance 4y agoAll UK ISPs do. It's very annoying trying to access sci-hub
- petecooper 4y ago>All UK ISPs do. Not all of them. I’m on Zen, no filters as far as I’m aware, sci-hub works fine. Libgen is fine. Torrent sites that the ‘main’ ISPs block come up just fine, too. Edit: some of the ISPs that do seem to land on this URL (note http) – http://www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk http://www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk whois shows BT (large ISP and telco) as the owner.
- vidarh 4y agoNo, they don't all do that. Those kind of blocks are mostly confined to a handful of the larger ISPs, and especially the mobile providers. I've yet to manage to find something my current ISP blocks, for example. Might well be they block something, but none of the "usual suspects" that I'm willing to test (e.g. Pirate Bay, Sci Hub)
- rjsw 4y agoAndrews and Arnold doesn't do any filtering.
- daveoc64 4y agoAll of the major ISPs and mobile networks do. The UK government threatened to make it a legal requirement that all internet connections have filters for adult content on by default. The major ISPs and mobile networks voluntarily put filtering in place by default to avoid the regulation. The filters can usually be removed quite easily. While there are some smaller ISPs that don't put filtering in place, they account for something like < 10% of the market.
- Waterluvian 4y agoWow. I’ve never seen this class of ISP censorship. Is this some sort of government mandated system or has Vodaphone taken it upon themselves to do this?
- daveoc64 4y agoThe UK government told ISPs to put the filtering in place voluntarily, or else the government would make a law requiring it. All of the major ISPs and mobile networks now do it on a voluntary basis.
- Joker_vD 4y agoIt's pretty amazing that executive branch can enforce not just unimplemented but even undrafted laws.
- newswasboring 4y ago> There’s no explanation or option to report a false positive and they want you to put in credit card details to confirm your age to unlock it Are we even sure this is vodaphone? This sounds so much like a scam pop up ad.
- circuit10 4y agoYes, it’s definitely Vodaphone, they want you to go to their settings page to do it and it’s not a pop up
- circuit10 4y agoThe site seems to not be blocked any more, did someone contact them about it or something? I would have edited this in to my original comment but it won’t let me any more
- benj111 4y agoI always turn the filters off, prior to that I couldn't even visit the Ubuntu forums.
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