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There really is no way out of this beyond regulation? Yet I doubt governments will side with consumers on this one (even in Europe) given their stance on copyri

There really is no way out of this beyond regulation? Yet I doubt governments will side with consumers on this one (even in Europe) given their stance on copyright on behalf of ip holders, so there is no way out. The thing I keep thinking about are things like pace makers and other medical devices that become useless implants once biotech companies go under. May be today it seems like the company you're getting the blobs from will be around but one day it won't be (or won't care to be) and then what are you going to do? May be something like this or an SBC doesn't matter as severely as a pace maker but anytime anyone builds something with these socs they run the risk that their product will be a dead weight in 10 years. But of course, that doesn't matter for most developers, just those of us who want to stop the endless technopollution in tech, make things that last, you know.

eru 4y ago
Benign neglect would probably work. Eventually the technological barriers will be worked around, and if the legal systems around the world don't spring into action, that's it.
mardifoufs 4y ago
Europe, and the EU to be more accurate, is rabidly pro copyright. They might also be pro consumer, usually, but not when discussing copyright. Just look at the EU copyright laws that were recently pased. Or the stranglehold copyright lobbies have on member states (the music industry in Germany, for example) In general, the US is more lenient and has a broader definition of fair use.
- xxpor 4y ago
  Germany doesn't even have a general fair use doctrine in the first place! It's really horrendous. Most countries' governments outside the US also assert copyright on their own works, which is ridiculous IMO, but is a good representation of the entire concept of the US: legitimacy is derived from the people themselves. The government can't have copyright because The People as a whole own the work.
RobotToaster 4y ago
Already happening https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete
- noobermin 4y ago
  Yes, I was referencing articles like this one and others.

eru 4y ago

Benign neglect would probably work. Eventually the technological barriers will be worked around, and if the legal systems around the world don't spring into action, that's it.

mardifoufs 4y ago

Europe, and the EU to be more accurate, is rabidly pro copyright. They might also be pro consumer, usually, but not when discussing copyright. Just look at the EU copyright laws that were recently pased. Or the stranglehold copyright lobbies have on member states (the music industry in Germany, for example) In general, the US is more lenient and has a broader definition of fair use.

xxpor 4y ago
Germany doesn't even have a general fair use doctrine in the first place! It's really horrendous. Most countries' governments outside the US also assert copyright on their own works, which is ridiculous IMO, but is a good representation of the entire concept of the US: legitimacy is derived from the people themselves. The government can't have copyright because The People as a whole own the work.

RobotToaster 4y ago

Already happening https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete

noobermin 4y ago
Yes, I was referencing articles like this one and others.