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> I never said “people should not be using computers to do computer things”. > I said that people shouldn't be storing sensitive data on their computers. http

by lapcat 4y ago

> I never said “people should not be using computers to do computer things”. > I said that people shouldn't be storing sensitive data on their computers. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/theyre-the-same-picture https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/theyre-the-same-picture I'd still like to see you explain what you meant by "The app store process and notarization also means apps can be revoked", because it sounds like you don't even have a correct technical understanding of the situation.

coldtea 4y ago
>https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/theyre-the-same-picture https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/theyre-the-same-picture A great reminder that memes don't make for good arguments. It's also funny how you missed the whole context, even despite further detailed explanation. >I'd still like to see you explain what you meant by "The app store process and notarization also means apps can be revoked", because it sounds like you don't even have a correct technical understanding of the situation. It means that arbitrary sideloading can't be revoked, whereas app store apps and notarized apps (not the same set, though the latter is a subset of the former) can. Sideloaded apps bypass the app store, but you still need a central entity that has the notarization control/ability to revoke. And of course notarized software is still checked by that entity (e.g. Apple for notarized macOS apps).
- lapcat 4y ago
  > Sideloaded apps bypass the app store, but you still need a central entity that has the notarization control/ability to revoke. And of course notarized software is still checked by that entity (e.g. Apple for notarized macOS apps). And this is precisely what people are calling for on iOS, to make it more like the Mac. It's assumed that Apple would require Developer ID and notarization for sideloaded iOS apps. Thus, sideloaded apps could be revoked just as easily as App Store apps.

by lapcat 4y ago

coldtea 4y ago

>https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/theyre-the-same-picture https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/theyre-the-same-picture A great reminder that memes don't make for good arguments. It's also funny how you missed the whole context, even despite further detailed explanation. >I'd still like to see you explain what you meant by "The app store process and notarization also means apps can be revoked", because it sounds like you don't even have a correct technical understanding of the situation. It means that arbitrary sideloading can't be revoked, whereas app store apps and notarized apps (not the same set, though the latter is a subset of the former) can. Sideloaded apps bypass the app store, but you still need a central entity that has the notarization control/ability to revoke. And of course notarized software is still checked by that entity (e.g. Apple for notarized macOS apps).

lapcat 4y ago
> Sideloaded apps bypass the app store, but you still need a central entity that has the notarization control/ability to revoke. And of course notarized software is still checked by that entity (e.g. Apple for notarized macOS apps). And this is precisely what people are calling for on iOS, to make it more like the Mac. It's assumed that Apple would require Developer ID and notarization for sideloaded iOS apps. Thus, sideloaded apps could be revoked just as easily as App Store apps.