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Wow! I don't know how accuracy translates, I do see charts that look strong but unless I'm missing something, this is incredible. Would be curious and also terr

Wow! I don't know how accuracy translates, I do see charts that look strong but unless I'm missing something, this is incredible. Would be curious and also terrified to see an endpoint so I can play around with it. I thought we were stopping this kind of research?

alchemist1e9 3y ago
> I thought we were stopping this kind of research? I’m going to, hopefully correctly, assume that was a funny joke.
- tartakovsky 3y ago
  I’m just saying, it was more a hopeful nod in the direction of wishful thinking. Not a joke, just a bit of having my head in the sand.
  - alchemist1e9 3y ago
    > I’m just saying, it was more a hopeful nod in the direction of wishful thinking. I still don’t understand why this is even wishful thinking, I don’t understand what the point of delaying progress is.
    - madmads 3y ago
      Because some people believe that sufficient progression in this field would result in a setback for humanity in the long run. Personally, I'm not sure what to believe.
    - nullsense 3y ago
      What's your assessment of a world full of computers that can actually tell you "no" will actually be like?
    - flangola7 3y ago
      Because AI development is the most dangerous thing humans have ever done? Respectfully, have you been under a rock? "Progress" doesn't mean "every massive change to the world and humanity is good." There are undeveloped technologies that we are currently not capable of being responsible with. Google differential technological research.
      - alchemist1e9 3y ago
        I’m using GPT-4 basically everyday multiple times. I’m following closely LLM developments. Yet I have trouble seeing what people find so dangerous. It’s amazingly cool stuff that will create massive productivity gains. I guess I just lack needed imagination to believe this “most dangerous thing humans have ever done” perspective. It looks to me the most dangerous thing is actually Gain Of Function research on pathogens. That seems like most dangerous thing. Close 2nd is nuclear weapons. LLMs seems really nice and fuzzy and warm to me in comparison.
        kubanczyk 3y ago
        This convinces me: > Intelligence is the only advantage we have over lions, who are otherwise much bigger and stronger and faster than we are. But we have total control over lions, keeping them in zoos [...] The "intelligence" is a mouthful, but I think the advantage described above is, at its root, caused by a slightly better "predict" step in the observe-predict-act loop. That's it. And LLMs aren't exactly bad predictors, are they? And it looks like while our predictive abilities rise over centuries, theirs rise over decades.
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alchemist1e9 3y ago

> I thought we were stopping this kind of research? I’m going to, hopefully correctly, assume that was a funny joke.

tartakovsky 3y ago
I’m just saying, it was more a hopeful nod in the direction of wishful thinking. Not a joke, just a bit of having my head in the sand.
- alchemist1e9 3y ago
  > I’m just saying, it was more a hopeful nod in the direction of wishful thinking. I still don’t understand why this is even wishful thinking, I don’t understand what the point of delaying progress is.
  - madmads 3y ago
    Because some people believe that sufficient progression in this field would result in a setback for humanity in the long run. Personally, I'm not sure what to believe.
  - nullsense 3y ago
    What's your assessment of a world full of computers that can actually tell you "no" will actually be like?
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Because AI development is the most dangerous thing humans have ever done? Respectfully, have you been under a rock? "Progress" doesn't mean "every massive change to the world and humanity is good." There are undeveloped technologies that we are currently not capable of being responsible with. Google differential technological research.
    - alchemist1e9 3y ago
      I’m using GPT-4 basically everyday multiple times. I’m following closely LLM developments. Yet I have trouble seeing what people find so dangerous. It’s amazingly cool stuff that will create massive productivity gains. I guess I just lack needed imagination to believe this “most dangerous thing humans have ever done” perspective. It looks to me the most dangerous thing is actually Gain Of Function research on pathogens. That seems like most dangerous thing. Close 2nd is nuclear weapons. LLMs seems really nice and fuzzy and warm to me in comparison.
      - kubanczyk 3y ago
        This convinces me: > Intelligence is the only advantage we have over lions, who are otherwise much bigger and stronger and faster than we are. But we have total control over lions, keeping them in zoos [...] The "intelligence" is a mouthful, but I think the advantage described above is, at its root, caused by a slightly better "predict" step in the observe-predict-act loop. That's it. And LLMs aren't exactly bad predictors, are they? And it looks like while our predictive abilities rise over centuries, theirs rise over decades.

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