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It's so wrong to ever include suicides in city/location violence statistics/discussions. All it does is muddy the discussion for no discernable benefit. Yes, se
by xboxnolifes 4y ago
It's so wrong to ever include suicides in city/location violence statistics/discussions. All it does is muddy the discussion for no discernable benefit. Yes, self-directed violence is a thing, but it's not what people mean when they talk about violence in cities.
- retrocryptid 4y agoIt's not what you mean when you talk about violence in cities. There was nothing calm and sedate when mi amigo Doug put the barrel of a .357 in his mouth and pulled the trigger. If you don't care to look at the statistics for suicide, look at the map that says "homicides" and not the maps that say "deaths" or "suicides".
- chiefalchemist 4y agoGun violence is gun violence. To ignore suicides - which are the majority - in order to sensationalize the rest is not going to help anyone. And look where we are? Yet this is what the media does. And the unaware masses follow along championing a false narrative. We need transparency in order to have the necessary discussions.
- afiori 4y agoFrom this comment I do not understand whether you think suicides should be counted as a different category.
- chiefalchemist 4y agoWhatever we do what we're doing now lacks transparency and is unacceptable. I have no issue with people being concerned about mass shootings. But when those are a fraction and the majority is ignored - because the media loves to sensationalize (read: profit from) from mass shootings - that is a problem. We can't have adult discussions when less than 50% of the data on gun related deaths is on the table.