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> What everyone on Hacker News seems to long for is an Internet limited to 'that class' of people. Yep, that is exactly what I want. I want to be around and in

> What everyone on Hacker News seems to long for is an Internet limited to 'that class' of people. Yep, that is exactly what I want. I want to be around and interact with other educated people who act in good faith and I don't want to be around uneducated people who act in bad faith or can't see or aren't open to the contradictions in their own ideas. Eternal September is the name of this idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_News https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_News Graham stated he hopes to avoid the Eternal September that results in the general decline of intelligent discourse within a community. http://paulgraham.com/hackernews.html http://paulgraham.com/hackernews.html The good things in a community site come from people more than technology; it's mainly in the prevention of bad things that technology comes into play. Technology certainly can enhance discussion. Nested comments do, for example. But I'd rather use a site with primitive features and smart, nice users than a more advanced one whose users were idiots or trolls.

maeil 4y ago
Why are you phrasing things as if "educated" and "good faith" are related? > I don't want to be around uneducated people who act in bad faith Are you fine with being around educated people who act in bad faith? Those generally cause much more damage.
- hayst4ck 4y ago
  In the game of prisoners dilemma, I want to be around people who practice the winning strategy. A game to demonstrate why that is important: https://ncase.me/trust/ https://ncase.me/trust/ If you cooperate when others defect, you promote defection as a strategy. If you defect when others cooperate, you undermine cooperation as a winning strategy. So a community that shut down defectors and cooperates by default creates a community based around cooperation -- a high trust community. Bad faith is another word for defection. It is hard to understand the game you are playing or see the consequences of your actions without education.

maeil 4y ago

Why are you phrasing things as if "educated" and "good faith" are related? > I don't want to be around uneducated people who act in bad faith Are you fine with being around educated people who act in bad faith? Those generally cause much more damage.

hayst4ck 4y ago
In the game of prisoners dilemma, I want to be around people who practice the winning strategy. A game to demonstrate why that is important: https://ncase.me/trust/ https://ncase.me/trust/ If you cooperate when others defect, you promote defection as a strategy. If you defect when others cooperate, you undermine cooperation as a winning strategy. So a community that shut down defectors and cooperates by default creates a community based around cooperation -- a high trust community. Bad faith is another word for defection. It is hard to understand the game you are playing or see the consequences of your actions without education.