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If I translate the main page from Polish, it has text that resembles what you'd expect from scams: "Quidco - collect your £10", "Wise - transfer £500 for free",

If I translate the main page from Polish, it has text that resembles what you'd expect from scams: "Quidco - collect your £10", "Wise - transfer £500 for free", etc. There's even a bit of preface text that seems to acknowledge some content sounds a bit a like a scam: "I've never been too sure about sites that offer so-called Cashback"

dmix 4y ago
Seems to be a reference to this blog post? https://dariusz.wieckiewicz.org/quidco/ https://dariusz.wieckiewicz.org/quidco/ The big question is if Bing will reindex it later, assuming this is the problem content (who knows). Sidenote: What is "cashback shopping"? I'm familiar with credit cards that do that but not websites. Is it scammy?
- joshuaissac 4y ago
  > I'm familiar with credit cards that do that but not websites. Is it scammy? If you buy products from a store via a referral link, the referee gets paid a portion of the price. Cashback sites are organised around this principle, with referral agreements with a large number of stores. They share some of the earnings with the buyer. They are commonly used in the UK.
- idarek 4y ago
  This is why the position of Bing annoys me. Nobody checks the content and just assumes. Quidco is not a scam and my article describes how to get what you deserve. Quidco is nothing different to coupons for loyalty programs given to customers.
  - mise_en_place 4y ago
    I can understand your frustration. These days an LLM can arbitrarily blackhole you, effectively becoming judge jury and executioner. You cannot even reverse the mistake, it’s all automated and Orwellian.
    - pixl97 4y ago
      I don't think Orwellian is the right word here. This makes it sound like is a system that has malicious intent against you. I don't think that is the case here... Human systems were never designed to be as inner connected as they are now. I'm not talking about computer networks, I'm talking about our social systems and things like dunbars number. How do you codify one cultures social expectations in a system that works over the world wide web? How do you design a system that can be attacked by anywhere in the world at any time? If you're connected, you have one degree of separation to everyone else. A system like this will experience such a huge amount of bullshit asymmetry that the cost of electricity and bandwidth to determine your truthiness quotient is a significant operating cost. The first moment any deviance is detected in your response you will be banned simply because the system cannot afford to do otherwise.
  - dmix 4y ago
    It doesn't even matter what the content says anyway (and I personally wasn't going to read a full article I was just curious about cashback schemes), the search spam systems will always be automated and lack wider context.
idarek 4y ago
These are links to the article when I describe Quidco and Wise, additionally that you can get money back, like from GiffGaff in U/K you get £5, from Quidco £10 and so on. None of these described solutions is a scam. I always recommend something that I tried on my own and tested first. I am using Quidco and Wise constantly, hence if somebody classed my side as spam just based on these two promo links to the full article, they simply do not do their job and do not read the text that is behind them.

dmix 4y ago

Seems to be a reference to this blog post? https://dariusz.wieckiewicz.org/quidco/ https://dariusz.wieckiewicz.org/quidco/ The big question is if Bing will reindex it later, assuming this is the problem content (who knows). Sidenote: What is "cashback shopping"? I'm familiar with credit cards that do that but not websites. Is it scammy?

joshuaissac 4y ago
> I'm familiar with credit cards that do that but not websites. Is it scammy? If you buy products from a store via a referral link, the referee gets paid a portion of the price. Cashback sites are organised around this principle, with referral agreements with a large number of stores. They share some of the earnings with the buyer. They are commonly used in the UK.
idarek 4y ago
This is why the position of Bing annoys me. Nobody checks the content and just assumes. Quidco is not a scam and my article describes how to get what you deserve. Quidco is nothing different to coupons for loyalty programs given to customers.
- mise_en_place 4y ago
  I can understand your frustration. These days an LLM can arbitrarily blackhole you, effectively becoming judge jury and executioner. You cannot even reverse the mistake, it’s all automated and Orwellian.
  - pixl97 4y ago
    I don't think Orwellian is the right word here. This makes it sound like is a system that has malicious intent against you. I don't think that is the case here... Human systems were never designed to be as inner connected as they are now. I'm not talking about computer networks, I'm talking about our social systems and things like dunbars number. How do you codify one cultures social expectations in a system that works over the world wide web? How do you design a system that can be attacked by anywhere in the world at any time? If you're connected, you have one degree of separation to everyone else. A system like this will experience such a huge amount of bullshit asymmetry that the cost of electricity and bandwidth to determine your truthiness quotient is a significant operating cost. The first moment any deviance is detected in your response you will be banned simply because the system cannot afford to do otherwise.
- dmix 4y ago
  It doesn't even matter what the content says anyway (and I personally wasn't going to read a full article I was just curious about cashback schemes), the search spam systems will always be automated and lack wider context.

idarek 4y ago

These are links to the article when I describe Quidco and Wise, additionally that you can get money back, like from GiffGaff in U/K you get £5, from Quidco £10 and so on. None of these described solutions is a scam. I always recommend something that I tried on my own and tested first. I am using Quidco and Wise constantly, hence if somebody classed my side as spam just based on these two promo links to the full article, they simply do not do their job and do not read the text that is behind them.