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Wonder if the first time he drank he chugged a fifth of vodka.

by rblatz 3y ago

kube-system 3y ago
I know people who have done this, not having any information to know otherwise.
- kevinventullo 3y ago
  I wonder if this leads to less alcohol use in the future.
  - 1MachineElf 3y ago
    It did in my case, up until I moved in with an alcoholic.
  - cwmoore 3y ago
    No https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/early-drinking-linked-higher-lifetime-alcoholism-risk https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/early-dr...
  - Ancapistani 3y ago
    I doubt it. My first time getting drunk was somewhat unexpected. I was with friends and drinking screwdrivers, because I didn’t particularly like the taste of vodka and that’s all we had. I had no idea screwdrivers should be about around 20% vodka by volume - I made mine half and half. I also wasn’t familiar with enough alcohol to know about how long it takes to take effect, or to judge where I was in the process. Between those two things, I drank six ~16oz glasses full before I got to the point that I felt a strong buzz. I stopped… but my metabolism didn’t. I vaguely remember sitting in the bathroom floor that night, looking at my own vomit in the toilet, and thinking “Huh. That looks like blood. That’s not good.” The funny part (in retrospect!) is that is the only thing I remember for a six hour period or so, and that the thought was in a purely flat, narrative tone. I wasn’t at all worried about throwing up blood. It was at most a mildly interesting thing to have noticed. FWIW, the next day I realized that it wasn’t blood. I’d eaten a spaghetti a couple of hours prior, and it was partially digested marinara.
MagicMoonlight 3y ago
If you did that you might feel bad and be dehydrated the next day but you won't be suffering from psychosis or have permanent brain damage. That's the problem with drugs. They're just not safe in the same way. No matter how hard the addicts cope.
- nobody9999 3y ago
  >That's the problem with drugs. They're just not safe in the same way. No matter how hard the addicts cope. They're not safe because they're illegal and, as such, society can't impose quality/dosage controls. That said, not everyone should use various drugs. And that generally varies by individual. Humans have been documented (through archaeological finds) to have been using mind altering substances for 10,000 years. And likely, much, much longer. And we're (that's a general 'we') not going to stop. The solutions of course, are quality controls, ingredient disclosure/purity and quality information about such substances being broadly available. But that's never going to happen as long as we encourage a black market for those substances. We've been going about all this (which is nothing new) ass-backwards, IMHO
- rblatz 3y ago
  A fifth is enough to kill a person if they drank it fairly quickly. Also I’ve never heard of someone addicted to psychedelics. I’m starting to think you may not know what you are talking about and are just being judgmental.
- eurasiantiger 3y ago
  Alcohol is more likely to cause psychosis than any drugs.
  - tim333 3y ago
    From my experience of people I know who've drank alcohol and who've used psychedelics, I'd say no, not at all. The psychedelics are probably >1000x more likely to cause psychosis.
    - 3y ago

Wonder if the first time he drank he chugged a fifth of vodka.

by rblatz 3y ago

Wonder if the first time he drank he chugged a fifth of vodka.

kube-system 3y ago

I know people who have done this, not having any information to know otherwise.

kevinventullo 3y ago
I wonder if this leads to less alcohol use in the future.
- 1MachineElf 3y ago
  It did in my case, up until I moved in with an alcoholic.
- cwmoore 3y ago
  No https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/early-drinking-linked-higher-lifetime-alcoholism-risk https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/early-dr...
- Ancapistani 3y ago
  I doubt it. My first time getting drunk was somewhat unexpected. I was with friends and drinking screwdrivers, because I didn’t particularly like the taste of vodka and that’s all we had. I had no idea screwdrivers should be about around 20% vodka by volume - I made mine half and half. I also wasn’t familiar with enough alcohol to know about how long it takes to take effect, or to judge where I was in the process. Between those two things, I drank six ~16oz glasses full before I got to the point that I felt a strong buzz. I stopped… but my metabolism didn’t. I vaguely remember sitting in the bathroom floor that night, looking at my own vomit in the toilet, and thinking “Huh. That looks like blood. That’s not good.” The funny part (in retrospect!) is that is the only thing I remember for a six hour period or so, and that the thought was in a purely flat, narrative tone. I wasn’t at all worried about throwing up blood. It was at most a mildly interesting thing to have noticed. FWIW, the next day I realized that it wasn’t blood. I’d eaten a spaghetti a couple of hours prior, and it was partially digested marinara.

MagicMoonlight 3y ago

If you did that you might feel bad and be dehydrated the next day but you won't be suffering from psychosis or have permanent brain damage. That's the problem with drugs. They're just not safe in the same way. No matter how hard the addicts cope.

nobody9999 3y ago
>That's the problem with drugs. They're just not safe in the same way. No matter how hard the addicts cope. They're not safe because they're illegal and, as such, society can't impose quality/dosage controls. That said, not everyone should use various drugs. And that generally varies by individual. Humans have been documented (through archaeological finds) to have been using mind altering substances for 10,000 years. And likely, much, much longer. And we're (that's a general 'we') not going to stop. The solutions of course, are quality controls, ingredient disclosure/purity and quality information about such substances being broadly available. But that's never going to happen as long as we encourage a black market for those substances. We've been going about all this (which is nothing new) ass-backwards, IMHO
rblatz 3y ago
A fifth is enough to kill a person if they drank it fairly quickly. Also I’ve never heard of someone addicted to psychedelics. I’m starting to think you may not know what you are talking about and are just being judgmental.
eurasiantiger 3y ago
Alcohol is more likely to cause psychosis than any drugs.
- tim333 3y ago
  From my experience of people I know who've drank alcohol and who've used psychedelics, I'd say no, not at all. The psychedelics are probably >1000x more likely to cause psychosis.
  - 3y ago