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Right, my mistake. I think I wanted to say "when the Mac App Store was in its infancy" but lost the meaning mid sentence. Even iOS was launched without an App S

by alin23 3y ago

Right, my mistake. I think I wanted to say "when the Mac App Store was in its infancy" but lost the meaning mid sentence. Even iOS was launched without an App Store in the first year.

tough 3y ago
Steve initial plans seemed to revolve about everyone getting web apps with powerful html and what not. I guess they backtracked when they saw they could get a 30% take by keeping you on their walled garden GG, steve
- lagrange77 3y ago
  > Steve initial plans seemed to revolve about everyone getting web apps Got a source on this?
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - kgwgk 3y ago
    "The full Safari engine is inside of iPhone. And so, you can write amazing Web 2.0 and Ajax apps that look exactly and behave exactly like apps on the iPhone. And these apps can integrate perfectly with iPhone services. They can make a call, they can send an email, they can look up a location on Google Maps. "And guess what? There's no SDK that you need! You've got everything you need if you know how to write apps using the most modern web standards to write amazing apps for the iPhone today. So developers, we think we've got a very sweet story for you. You can begin building your iPhone apps today." https://9to5mac.com/2011/10/21/jobs-original-vision-for-the-iphone-no-third-party-native-apps/ https://9to5mac.com/2011/10/21/jobs-original-vision-for-the-...
    - lagrange77 3y ago
      Interesting, thanks!
    - tough 3y ago
      Yes this is what I had in mind. The vision was fine. Reality went somewhere else I do think native iOS apps feel superior to web ones. Somewhat it feels it's due to Apple not implementing new features like safari only supports push notifications since a few months ago
      - klabb3 3y ago
        The web wasn’t ready, but native was arguably even less ready due to lack of sandboxing. High fidelity would have been possible with a web based SDK. But that would have invited plebs to convert existing shitty pages to be “apps”, and in those days iOS apps was a noise-free exclusive experience. Web or not, gatekeeping software distribution was and remains a power grab, unrelated to security. It’s even less of an issue on mobile which has proper sandboxing anyway.

by alin23 3y ago

Right, my mistake. I think I wanted to say "when the Mac App Store was in its infancy" but lost the meaning mid sentence. Even iOS was launched without an App Store in the first year.

tough 3y ago

Steve initial plans seemed to revolve about everyone getting web apps with powerful html and what not. I guess they backtracked when they saw they could get a 30% take by keeping you on their walled garden GG, steve

lagrange77 3y ago
> Steve initial plans seemed to revolve about everyone getting web apps Got a source on this?
- deleted 3y ago
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- kgwgk 3y ago
  "The full Safari engine is inside of iPhone. And so, you can write amazing Web 2.0 and Ajax apps that look exactly and behave exactly like apps on the iPhone. And these apps can integrate perfectly with iPhone services. They can make a call, they can send an email, they can look up a location on Google Maps. "And guess what? There's no SDK that you need! You've got everything you need if you know how to write apps using the most modern web standards to write amazing apps for the iPhone today. So developers, we think we've got a very sweet story for you. You can begin building your iPhone apps today." https://9to5mac.com/2011/10/21/jobs-original-vision-for-the-iphone-no-third-party-native-apps/ https://9to5mac.com/2011/10/21/jobs-original-vision-for-the-...
  - lagrange77 3y ago
    Interesting, thanks!
  - tough 3y ago
    Yes this is what I had in mind. The vision was fine. Reality went somewhere else I do think native iOS apps feel superior to web ones. Somewhat it feels it's due to Apple not implementing new features like safari only supports push notifications since a few months ago
    - klabb3 3y ago
      The web wasn’t ready, but native was arguably even less ready due to lack of sandboxing. High fidelity would have been possible with a web based SDK. But that would have invited plebs to convert existing shitty pages to be “apps”, and in those days iOS apps was a noise-free exclusive experience. Web or not, gatekeeping software distribution was and remains a power grab, unrelated to security. It’s even less of an issue on mobile which has proper sandboxing anyway.