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or the danger it imposes on more vulnerable road users, or the negative externality of huge vehicles littering neighborhoods What I struggle with is how it's s

by RobinL 3y ago

or the danger it imposes on more vulnerable road users, or the negative externality of huge vehicles littering neighborhoods What I struggle with is how it's socially acceptable for people to ignore all of these negative externalities. Just another example of Moloch winning: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/. For some reason we scorn people who drop litter, but air pollution is totally fine

rhaway84773 3y ago
Or just murdering people by driving cars that are inherently incapable of not murdering people.
rcme 3y ago
The difference between littering and air pollution is pretty easy to understand. What’s the alternative to littering? Holding on to your trash for a few minute until you find a garbage can. What’s the alternative to air pollution? Giving up all of our modern conveniences and rearchitecting our entire society. Without air pollution, we likely could not sustain our current population levels, so a number of people would have to die too. Imagine society’s collective lifestyle was predicated on littering 100 candy bar wrappers per person. In such a scenario, I don’t think many people are going to get worked up over someone littering 105 wrappers. Taking this analogy a little further, I always find it strange when people that litter 90 wrappers get mad at those that litter 110.
FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
The solution is to equalize the death-probabilities. Let Corolla drivers roll some appropriate number of dice, perhaps on a monthly basis. Whenever your dice come up all sixes, the government sends you ammunition, to be used under the landwhale-hunting exemption. Kinda like jury duty, but more fun. You just need to set the probabilities correctly. Slowly ramp them up like interest rates until SUV adoption softens. Motorcyclists, bicyclists, and pedestrians get extra shots.

by RobinL 3y ago

rhaway84773 3y ago

Or just murdering people by driving cars that are inherently incapable of not murdering people.

rcme 3y ago

The difference between littering and air pollution is pretty easy to understand. What’s the alternative to littering? Holding on to your trash for a few minute until you find a garbage can. What’s the alternative to air pollution? Giving up all of our modern conveniences and rearchitecting our entire society. Without air pollution, we likely could not sustain our current population levels, so a number of people would have to die too. Imagine society’s collective lifestyle was predicated on littering 100 candy bar wrappers per person. In such a scenario, I don’t think many people are going to get worked up over someone littering 105 wrappers. Taking this analogy a little further, I always find it strange when people that litter 90 wrappers get mad at those that litter 110.

FooBarBizBazz 3y ago

The solution is to equalize the death-probabilities. Let Corolla drivers roll some appropriate number of dice, perhaps on a monthly basis. Whenever your dice come up all sixes, the government sends you ammunition, to be used under the landwhale-hunting exemption. Kinda like jury duty, but more fun. You just need to set the probabilities correctly. Slowly ramp them up like interest rates until SUV adoption softens. Motorcyclists, bicyclists, and pedestrians get extra shots.