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> https://www.osha.gov/etools/machine-guarding/presses/two-han https://www.osha.gov/etools/machine-guarding/presses/two-han... > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

> https://www.osha.gov/etools/machine-guarding/presses/two-han https://www.osha.gov/etools/machine-guarding/presses/two-han... > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockout%E2%80%93tagout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockout%E2%80%93tagout Not sure what those links are supposed to show, but having safeguards and completely disallowing something is a different matter. If all, you're just proving parent's point.

hayst4ck 4y ago
Two handed presses are a technical prevention which restricts a person from putting their hands in danger. Education was not enough. Lockout/tagout is a technical prevention which restricts other people from messing with a system that could endanger you. Education was not enough. A monopoly app store is a technical prevention that restricts someone from running un-vetted software that could potentially steal your life savings or compromise your entire digital life. Do you think education is enough? I am not saying that that is true or correct, but I do think that's an argument that someone who disagrees would have to take in good faith and respond to satisfactorily.
- wiseowise 4y ago
  > Two handed presses are a technical prevention which restricts a person from putting their hands in danger. Education was not enough. That's what "Are you sure you want to enable sideloading?" toggle is. > Lockout/tagout is a technical prevention which restricts other people from messing with a system that could endanger you. Education was not enough. That's what OS is. > A monopoly app store is a technical prevention that restricts someone from running un-vetted software that could potentially steal your life savings or compromise your entire digital life. Do you think education is enough? A monopoly app store is a technical prevention that restricts someone from running un-vetted software that could potentially prevent monopoly app store revenue or god-forbid bypass DRM. So what? And App Store absolutely does have malware https://lifehacker.com/great-now-the-apple-app-store-has-malware-too-1849386738 https://lifehacker.com/great-now-the-apple-app-store-has-mal.... If it's not even 100% secure then it's not worth sacrificing my freedom to choose.

hayst4ck 4y ago

Two handed presses are a technical prevention which restricts a person from putting their hands in danger. Education was not enough. Lockout/tagout is a technical prevention which restricts other people from messing with a system that could endanger you. Education was not enough. A monopoly app store is a technical prevention that restricts someone from running un-vetted software that could potentially steal your life savings or compromise your entire digital life. Do you think education is enough? I am not saying that that is true or correct, but I do think that's an argument that someone who disagrees would have to take in good faith and respond to satisfactorily.

wiseowise 4y ago
> Two handed presses are a technical prevention which restricts a person from putting their hands in danger. Education was not enough. That's what "Are you sure you want to enable sideloading?" toggle is. > Lockout/tagout is a technical prevention which restricts other people from messing with a system that could endanger you. Education was not enough. That's what OS is. > A monopoly app store is a technical prevention that restricts someone from running un-vetted software that could potentially steal your life savings or compromise your entire digital life. Do you think education is enough? A monopoly app store is a technical prevention that restricts someone from running un-vetted software that could potentially prevent monopoly app store revenue or god-forbid bypass DRM. So what? And App Store absolutely does have malware https://lifehacker.com/great-now-the-apple-app-store-has-malware-too-1849386738 https://lifehacker.com/great-now-the-apple-app-store-has-mal.... If it's not even 100% secure then it's not worth sacrificing my freedom to choose.