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I absolutely disagree with your conclusion. It's like forbidding people from working on their own cars because some people are stupid and kill themselves throug

I absolutely disagree with your conclusion. It's like forbidding people from working on their own cars because some people are stupid and kill themselves through their work(and that kind of thing is neither rare nor unusual). And it's not like people with iOS are resistant to being scammed - there are hundreds of ways criminals can dupe you to sending them money, the invoice scam being the simplest example and it doesn't require any special apps.

zacksiri 4y ago
You should read this article[0]. It outlines clearly that victims are downloading .apk files [0] https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40024972 https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40024972 Also your comparison of people 'working on their own cars' is a bit off here. Most people buy cars to drive, and give the car to the mechanic to 'work on'. It's much much harder to repair your own car than to click a link that can scam you.
- gambiting 4y ago
  No one said anything about repairs - people are currently free to buy and fit their own wipers from 3rd parties because we have specific legislation that says manufacturers can't forbid 3rd parties from making spare parts. I don't see why the same shouldn't apply here. >>You should read this article[0]. It outlines clearly that victims are downloading .apk files I feel for the victims but I literally don't see how that's an argument against sideloading.
  - zacksiri 4y ago
    I'm simply presenting a case in my own country. Where I've seen the negative effects of sideloading playing out. People's livelihoods are being destroyed. I do understand that sideloading is something desirable for some percentage of people. Point is every thing has pros / cons. Sideloading is like buying a car and upgrading it with NOS. Yeah it's wonderful. Your going to have a very powerful car. But the risks also increase. Most people don't need NOS in their car. I'm speaking for most people. In my household I recommend everyone to use Apple devices, it keeps them safe and happy. Ultimately everyone is entitled to their own choices and have to accept the consequences. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it plays out now that it's coming to iOS 17 in the EU.
    - wiseowise 4y ago
      > Sideloading is like buying a car and upgrading it with NOS. Yeah it's wonderful. Your going to have a very powerful car. But the risks also increase. Most people don't need NOS in their car. No, sideloading is freedom. Imagine that car manufacturer put a part in your car that only works if: * watch ads or pay $ every month * collects all your information * has fake freedom to install only parts from their store that follow previous two points * extorts authors of parts for 30% all while smugly saying "take it or leave it".

zacksiri 4y ago

You should read this article[0]. It outlines clearly that victims are downloading .apk files [0] https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40024972 https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40024972 Also your comparison of people 'working on their own cars' is a bit off here. Most people buy cars to drive, and give the car to the mechanic to 'work on'. It's much much harder to repair your own car than to click a link that can scam you.

gambiting 4y ago
No one said anything about repairs - people are currently free to buy and fit their own wipers from 3rd parties because we have specific legislation that says manufacturers can't forbid 3rd parties from making spare parts. I don't see why the same shouldn't apply here. >>You should read this article[0]. It outlines clearly that victims are downloading .apk files I feel for the victims but I literally don't see how that's an argument against sideloading.
- zacksiri 4y ago
  I'm simply presenting a case in my own country. Where I've seen the negative effects of sideloading playing out. People's livelihoods are being destroyed. I do understand that sideloading is something desirable for some percentage of people. Point is every thing has pros / cons. Sideloading is like buying a car and upgrading it with NOS. Yeah it's wonderful. Your going to have a very powerful car. But the risks also increase. Most people don't need NOS in their car. I'm speaking for most people. In my household I recommend everyone to use Apple devices, it keeps them safe and happy. Ultimately everyone is entitled to their own choices and have to accept the consequences. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it plays out now that it's coming to iOS 17 in the EU.
  - wiseowise 4y ago
    > Sideloading is like buying a car and upgrading it with NOS. Yeah it's wonderful. Your going to have a very powerful car. But the risks also increase. Most people don't need NOS in their car. No, sideloading is freedom. Imagine that car manufacturer put a part in your car that only works if: * watch ads or pay $ every month * collects all your information * has fake freedom to install only parts from their store that follow previous two points * extorts authors of parts for 30% all while smugly saying "take it or leave it".