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So, basically, to avoid eating meat which is what we have been doing for thousands of years, we have to eat all kinds of pharmaceutical products to compensate t
by cfn 3y ago
So, basically, to avoid eating meat which is what we have been doing for thousands of years, we have to eat all kinds of pharmaceutical products to compensate the deficiencies of a plant based diet.
Are we accounting the costs of the production of these products in the comparison, and do we have conclusive, long term studies that suplements are as good as eating natural products? Apparently, the first suplements only appeared around 70 years ago.
- bigfudge 3y agoNo. Just eat less meat. We eat far more than is needed even according to the (disputed) literature suggesting meat is necessary for a balanced diet. This doesn’t have to be a binary decision.
- least 3y agoAlternatively, we eat as much meat and figure out how to reduce emissions in other ways. Meat production is part of the equation but its focus in these discussions seems largely agenda-based than anything else. It's a convenient scapegoat. > according to the (disputed) literature suggesting meat is necessary for a balanced diet. Meat being necessary hinges on veganism being a legitimate replacement. Is veganism legitimate as a full-on replacement? No, it's not. At least not yet. If or when it does become that, then yeah, meat won't be necessary. Right now it's mostly a viable option for relatively healthy adults with a lot of money to spend.
- bigfudge 3y agoDid you read my comment? It’s seems you are back to dichotomising to “just as much meat” Vs véganisme. Why not just eat less meat?! No matter how it’s produced, there is a basic physics to this that means it’s always going to use more land than growing plants.
- least 3y agoMaybe you're misunderstanding. My point is that maybe meat production in itself isn't something that really needs to be reduced because there's 1) ways to reduce its carbon footprint, 2) it's worth the cost it has on emissions because of its high utility.
- bigfudge 3y agoI understand your point now although I think both premises are entirely unreasonable. How about we find wsa to reduce emmisions first? There is no evidence of anyone successfully doing at present. On the second point, I think you’d need to substantiate the utility of excess meat first. The evidence seems to go the other way.
- Maursault 3y ago> we have to eat all kinds of pharmaceutical products to compensate the deficiencies of a plant based diet. Vitamin supplements are regulated by the FDA as food. They're not drugs or "pharmaceutical products."
- porkbeer 3y agoMore correctly, they are almost completely unregulated.