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I'm guessing the authors are making an internal pitch that a16z should invest in upstash[1]? I'm not feeling it personally - the whole hypothesis seems definite

I'm guessing the authors are making an internal pitch that a16z should invest in upstash[1]? I'm not feeling it personally - the whole hypothesis seems definitely not aligned with what I've seen. I've never seen people trying to build transaction guarantees into their whole microservices stack using Fancy New Startup Tech[tm]. What I have seen a lot is people building transaction guarantees into their stack using something like event sourcing and cqrs. You pay some complexity but what you get in return is a transaction guarantee when events are processed which guarantees consistency when you need it (eg financial transactions etc), and the view part is eventually consistent but is always accurate as of a point in time. [1] https://upstash.com/about https://upstash.com/about doesn't show a16z as an investor right now.

swyx 4y ago
> I'm guessing the authors are making an internal pitch that a16z should invest in upstash thats not how it works, they already made their bets long before writing something like this (+ validated by talking to a ton of pple than can fit into this post... i know bc i've spent time with the authors haha) > What I have seen a lot is people building transaction guarantees into their stack using something like event sourcing and cqrs. You pay some complexity but what you get in return is a transaction guarantee when events are processed which guarantees consistency when you need it (eg financial transactions etc), and the view part is eventually consistent but is always accurate as of a point in time. correct. what's happening here is the rise of well tested frameworks that hopefully reduce the cost of implementation while preserving/extending the benefits (which can be very large if you go as far as temporal have done)
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > thats not how it works, they already made their bets long before writing something like this Correct. Andreessen is unusual in that its partners have a habit of plugging their books irrespective of the underlying companies’ health. So when e.g. PG says “look, I funded this company and they’re being badass,” people listen. When these guys write this tripe, it makes me wonder who’s running out of cash on that list.

swyx 4y ago

> I'm guessing the authors are making an internal pitch that a16z should invest in upstash thats not how it works, they already made their bets long before writing something like this (+ validated by talking to a ton of pple than can fit into this post... i know bc i've spent time with the authors haha) > What I have seen a lot is people building transaction guarantees into their stack using something like event sourcing and cqrs. You pay some complexity but what you get in return is a transaction guarantee when events are processed which guarantees consistency when you need it (eg financial transactions etc), and the view part is eventually consistent but is always accurate as of a point in time. correct. what's happening here is the rise of well tested frameworks that hopefully reduce the cost of implementation while preserving/extending the benefits (which can be very large if you go as far as temporal have done)

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> thats not how it works, they already made their bets long before writing something like this Correct. Andreessen is unusual in that its partners have a habit of plugging their books irrespective of the underlying companies’ health. So when e.g. PG says “look, I funded this company and they’re being badass,” people listen. When these guys write this tripe, it makes me wonder who’s running out of cash on that list.