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Codeium seems really shady. They're saying that my anonaddy.com e-mail address is invalid and the Vim extension downloads some opaque binaries.

by xigoi 4y ago

varunkmohan 4y ago
Hi, Varun from the Codeium team here. This is fairly common thing to do to not support these sorts of domains to prevent abuse. Also, Copilot downloads a language server binary as well for their vim extension. Happy to discuss how we could improve.
- xigoi 4y ago
  Hi, thanks for answering! The problem with giving companies one's real e-mail address is that they often sell it to advertisers. I've read your privacy policy, but it's still not clear to me whether you're allowed to do that (there are some phrases suggesting yes and some suggesting no). What is the binary needed for? Why can't it be distributed as a part of the repository? I don't use Copilot, so I can't compare it in this way.
  - varunkmohan 4y ago
    We explicitly state in our privacy policy that we don't sell user data to third parties. The language server is the common binary cross ides that actually processes local / repo context and communicates with the cloud service to generate completions. For now, that is closed source, similar to other tools like Tabnine and Copilot, but we may change that in the future.
    - xigoi 4y ago
      The privacy policy also states: > We and/or our third-party marketing partners may use the Personal Information you send to us for our marketing purposes, if this is in accordance with your marketing preferences. Doesn't this imply that the third-party marketing partners get the user's e-mail address? What's the reason behind the language server being closed-source? Do you have something to hide?
      - mdwalters 4y ago
        > Do you have something to hide? I imagine this is the only reason why closed-source software exists
    - pleb_nz 4y ago
      Problem is what companies say and do is not always aligned, things change and accidents happen. Unfortunately, that means wide brushes are now used to paint impressions and what companies say in their terms are not trusted.

Codeium seems really shady. They're saying that my anonaddy.com e-mail address is invalid and the Vim extension downloads some opaque binaries.

by xigoi 4y ago

Codeium seems really shady. They're saying that my anonaddy.com e-mail address is invalid and the Vim extension downloads some opaque binaries.

varunkmohan 4y ago

Hi, Varun from the Codeium team here. This is fairly common thing to do to not support these sorts of domains to prevent abuse. Also, Copilot downloads a language server binary as well for their vim extension. Happy to discuss how we could improve.

xigoi 4y ago
Hi, thanks for answering! The problem with giving companies one's real e-mail address is that they often sell it to advertisers. I've read your privacy policy, but it's still not clear to me whether you're allowed to do that (there are some phrases suggesting yes and some suggesting no). What is the binary needed for? Why can't it be distributed as a part of the repository? I don't use Copilot, so I can't compare it in this way.
- varunkmohan 4y ago
  We explicitly state in our privacy policy that we don't sell user data to third parties. The language server is the common binary cross ides that actually processes local / repo context and communicates with the cloud service to generate completions. For now, that is closed source, similar to other tools like Tabnine and Copilot, but we may change that in the future.
  - xigoi 4y ago
    The privacy policy also states: > We and/or our third-party marketing partners may use the Personal Information you send to us for our marketing purposes, if this is in accordance with your marketing preferences. Doesn't this imply that the third-party marketing partners get the user's e-mail address? What's the reason behind the language server being closed-source? Do you have something to hide?
    - mdwalters 4y ago
      > Do you have something to hide? I imagine this is the only reason why closed-source software exists
  - pleb_nz 4y ago
    Problem is what companies say and do is not always aligned, things change and accidents happen. Unfortunately, that means wide brushes are now used to paint impressions and what companies say in their terms are not trusted.