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Is this a joke? Medical data should stay the hell away from gpt servers

pilotneko 4y ago
OpenAI will sign a business agreement and run an instance with isolated servers, for HIPAA compliance. That being said, you can run LLMs on-prem.
- avereveard 4y ago
  citation needed. specifically regarding gpt4 and not the other models, since that was your claim. > That being said, you can run LLMs on-prem. how is this relevant at all? it's just dodging the question, since the claim was about gpt4 32k tokens and not the crop of generic models that we have now availabe on prem (and which don't support 32k token anyway)
famouswaffles 4y ago
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/04/gpt-4-will-hunt-for-trends-in-medical-records-thanks-to-microsoft-and-epic/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/04/gpt-4...
- avereveard 4y ago
  from that source we find descriptions of two features "enhancements to automatically draft message responses" "Another solution will bring natural language queries to SlicerDicer" neither of which needs 32k token nor to see the patient records also, foot note 1 "users of Azure and Azure OpenAI Service are responsible for ensuring the regulatory compliance of their use" there is zero claim of actual compliances of these services for handling sensitive or regulated data. now I understand the enthusiasm, but at least don't waste people time with sources that are, at best, tangential, and don't provide any substance to the discussion
  - famouswaffles 4y ago
    Did you read the thing or what ? "The second use will bring natural language queries and "data analysis" to SlicerDicer, which is Epic's data-exploration tool that allows searches across large numbers of patients to identify trends that could be useful for making new discoveries or for financial reasons. According to Microsoft, that will help "clinical leaders explore data in a conversational and intuitive way."" Do you not understand what natural language queries on external data by access of/enabled by GPT-4 means/entails ? The only thing worse than being condescending is being condescending and wrong.
    - avereveard 4y ago
      yes, it seems you haven't been understanding what's written that means natural language will understand user request and write queries for SlicerDicer data backend, not that data is sent to the llm for analysis. it writes queries, don't receive data.

OpenAI will sign a business agreement and run an instance with isolated servers, for HIPAA compliance. That being said, you can run LLMs on-prem.

avereveard 4y ago
citation needed. specifically regarding gpt4 and not the other models, since that was your claim. > That being said, you can run LLMs on-prem. how is this relevant at all? it's just dodging the question, since the claim was about gpt4 32k tokens and not the crop of generic models that we have now availabe on prem (and which don't support 32k token anyway)

famouswaffles 4y ago

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/04/gpt-4-will-hunt-for-trends-in-medical-records-thanks-to-microsoft-and-epic/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/04/gpt-4...

avereveard 4y ago
from that source we find descriptions of two features "enhancements to automatically draft message responses" "Another solution will bring natural language queries to SlicerDicer" neither of which needs 32k token nor to see the patient records also, foot note 1 "users of Azure and Azure OpenAI Service are responsible for ensuring the regulatory compliance of their use" there is zero claim of actual compliances of these services for handling sensitive or regulated data. now I understand the enthusiasm, but at least don't waste people time with sources that are, at best, tangential, and don't provide any substance to the discussion
- famouswaffles 4y ago
  Did you read the thing or what ? "The second use will bring natural language queries and "data analysis" to SlicerDicer, which is Epic's data-exploration tool that allows searches across large numbers of patients to identify trends that could be useful for making new discoveries or for financial reasons. According to Microsoft, that will help "clinical leaders explore data in a conversational and intuitive way."" Do you not understand what natural language queries on external data by access of/enabled by GPT-4 means/entails ? The only thing worse than being condescending is being condescending and wrong.
  - avereveard 4y ago
    yes, it seems you haven't been understanding what's written that means natural language will understand user request and write queries for SlicerDicer data backend, not that data is sent to the llm for analysis. it writes queries, don't receive data.