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I've had this for a few years now. I'd say the first thing to do is go to a doctor and rule out any more serious cause of the visual phenomenon, e.g. MS, brain

I've had this for a few years now. I'd say the first thing to do is go to a doctor and rule out any more serious cause of the visual phenomenon, e.g. MS, brain tumor, and so on. If that's all clear, then you kind of have to just get used to it. Taking care of your overall health, like getting enough sleep, exercising, and eating well, seems to help people with their symptoms either directly or indirectly. There are a few neuro-opthalmologists working on treatments that seem to produce some degree of improvement in patients.

danparsonson 4y ago
That's useful, thank you for sharing your experiences.
blatant303 4y ago
Why would you want to heal it ? I have some heavy visual snow but it seems to disappear if I stop focusing on it. It seems like the grain of an old movie except that it doesn't seem to impair my ability to see details. kalm. I can of course focus on the snow and there is suddenly thousands of little rgb stars exploding everywhere and running along constrast lines. panik.
- sneed_chucker 4y ago
  Yeah, just wish I could not See it you know? A lot of people find it distressing, feel like they're losing they're minds, feel depersonalized, etc. It's also not the only symptom, there's light trails, strong after images, very noticeable floaters and BFEP. Like basically more intense versions of visual phenomena that most people experience but it's persistent. For what it's worth, it doesn't really bother me anymore but developing it or noticing it for the first time can be hard for people.
LoganDark 4y ago
Sometimes I get weirdly self-conscious because I can't tell the difference between merely perceiving entropy and having "visual show". I can still see everything perfectly clearly. I can just also see entropy. Does that make it visual snow? Can I even describe the experience of "entropy" in a way that properly allows someone to tell whether what I'm describing counts as visual snow? Hm.
- wruza 4y ago
  It’s usually “yes you can” when you can. As in: is this water boiling or not? You’re not sure only until it’s clear it is.
- danparsonson 4y ago
  Maybe this will help: https://visionsimulations.com/visual-snow.htm https://visionsimulations.com/visual-snow.htm Although the condition is not well understood, I think the consensus of opinion is that the phenomenon is neural rather than opthalmic - i.e. perceptual in nature. If you are perceiving entropy in a similar way to the website I linked, it could be VSS (obviously you should consult a medical professional for a proper diagnosis though).
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    > Maybe this will help: https://visionsimulations.com/visual-snow.htm https://visionsimulations.com/visual-snow.htm Isn't that... just entropy? At least, the default settings. Like... that's almost what I see (on the website it is greatly exaggerated). I see it because physically, light literally doesn't take the same path twice. Exact same reasons why path tracers take a long time to converge. I can see solid colors and make out shapes (even very small shapes) easily. Nothing is obscured. The noise isn't obnoxious or distracting or annoying. Neurologically I smooth it out and perceive a world without noise. But it's there. I would be more surprised if this is not a thing that happens to everyone. If someone can look at a surface, and see a completely solid color, with no sign of noise at all ever. With no entropy or anything. Completely and totally static and unchanging.
    - danparsonson 4y ago
      However you describe it, that's not how I experience vision, and as far as I know, not typical. If you've had this all your life then it's reasonable that you would assume everyone's vision works like that; maybe you could try using that website to compare your experiences with some friends and find out.

danparsonson 4y ago

That's useful, thank you for sharing your experiences.

blatant303 4y ago

Why would you want to heal it ? I have some heavy visual snow but it seems to disappear if I stop focusing on it. It seems like the grain of an old movie except that it doesn't seem to impair my ability to see details. kalm. I can of course focus on the snow and there is suddenly thousands of little rgb stars exploding everywhere and running along constrast lines. panik.

sneed_chucker 4y ago
Yeah, just wish I could not See it you know? A lot of people find it distressing, feel like they're losing they're minds, feel depersonalized, etc. It's also not the only symptom, there's light trails, strong after images, very noticeable floaters and BFEP. Like basically more intense versions of visual phenomena that most people experience but it's persistent. For what it's worth, it doesn't really bother me anymore but developing it or noticing it for the first time can be hard for people.

LoganDark 4y ago

Sometimes I get weirdly self-conscious because I can't tell the difference between merely perceiving entropy and having "visual show". I can still see everything perfectly clearly. I can just also see entropy. Does that make it visual snow? Can I even describe the experience of "entropy" in a way that properly allows someone to tell whether what I'm describing counts as visual snow? Hm.

wruza 4y ago
It’s usually “yes you can” when you can. As in: is this water boiling or not? You’re not sure only until it’s clear it is.
danparsonson 4y ago
Maybe this will help: https://visionsimulations.com/visual-snow.htm https://visionsimulations.com/visual-snow.htm Although the condition is not well understood, I think the consensus of opinion is that the phenomenon is neural rather than opthalmic - i.e. perceptual in nature. If you are perceiving entropy in a similar way to the website I linked, it could be VSS (obviously you should consult a medical professional for a proper diagnosis though).
- LoganDark 4y ago
  > Maybe this will help: https://visionsimulations.com/visual-snow.htm https://visionsimulations.com/visual-snow.htm Isn't that... just entropy? At least, the default settings. Like... that's almost what I see (on the website it is greatly exaggerated). I see it because physically, light literally doesn't take the same path twice. Exact same reasons why path tracers take a long time to converge. I can see solid colors and make out shapes (even very small shapes) easily. Nothing is obscured. The noise isn't obnoxious or distracting or annoying. Neurologically I smooth it out and perceive a world without noise. But it's there. I would be more surprised if this is not a thing that happens to everyone. If someone can look at a surface, and see a completely solid color, with no sign of noise at all ever. With no entropy or anything. Completely and totally static and unchanging.
  - danparsonson 4y ago
    However you describe it, that's not how I experience vision, and as far as I know, not typical. If you've had this all your life then it's reasonable that you would assume everyone's vision works like that; maybe you could try using that website to compare your experiences with some friends and find out.