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> Healthy alternatives like instant ramen? No, healthy alternatives like healthy alternatives. E.g. google "cheap healthy food" (notice I even haven't added a
by Eduard 4y ago
> Healthy alternatives like instant ramen?
No, healthy alternatives like healthy alternatives. E.g. google "cheap healthy food" (notice I even haven't added a "vegan" query constraint).
And your "poor people will choose calorie rich food" is an argument
- for what? That animal-based food is low-calorie or high-calorie, and people will only substitute it with unheathly stuff? Keep in mind that people have been going to "unhealthy" McDonald's for ages.
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoMeat is included in the cheap healthy food (as you said yourself), but once you're so poor you cannot afford even the cheap meats, you won't be able to afford a lot of other healthy things either. Yes cabbages are cheap when in season, but how long will you feel "full" (not hungry) after a cabbage soup compared to eg. pasta or rice?
- Eduard 4y agoI know; this is Hacker News, hence a strong knowledge and habit bubble of start-up ramen and food delivery cuisine, and a lack of knowledge of all the other choices of food that nature provides, and no experiences in the kitchen besides microwave. Vegan people must belt down their Kwashiorkor; and no idea how any other society in the world of the long and recent past, as well as the present, could struggle through the only two possible options "eternal feeling of hunger" and "morbidly obese by noodle".
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoYou're looking at extremes, while I'm saying that once you cannot afford meat anymore, you cannot afford vegan alternatives either. If you can't pay 2eur for a piece of pork, you can't afford a 3-pack of bell peppers either. But you can afford a 60c half-kilo pack of pasta.
- Eduard 4y agoIf I can buy a piece of pork for 2 EUR at my German supermarket, then this is because of the meat industry in Germany being subsidized with an estimated 13 billion EUR yearly. https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/tierwirtschaft-erhaelt-13-milliarden-euro-vom-staat-jahr-fuer-jahr-a-1dbac670-2cf4-4d09-b426-75a11c8e0569 https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/tierwirtschaft-erhaelt-13-...
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoSo what? So is the grains industry, and you can buy pasta for 50c.
- aziaziazi 4y agoReplacing pork with bell peppers is a very strange idea. The go-to cheap, healthy and easy alternativeS are found in all sorts of beans meal like read beans and rice https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_beans_and_rice https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_beans_and_rice