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Your "etc" includes some very powerful ethnic groups. Are you planning on "identifying" them? I didn't think so.

echelon 3y ago
I don't see why you can't. Throw religion in while you're at it. Even interest groups around other classes: disability, socioeconomic, etc. You can absolutely say a newspaper (or individual columnist or editor) is pro-LGBT, pro-Israel, pro-Palestine, pro-Mormon, pro-Amish, pro-Atheist, etc. That shouldn't be controversial. Wikipedia can and does do this in a relatively neutral way. If your classification is meant to disparage a group, then I'd see the trouble. Don't do that. I want an up to date, well rounded view of how everyone sees the world. A system capable of getting me to see geopolitical events in other perspectives is useful, even if I ultimately choose to uphold my existing beliefs. FWIW, I subscribe to all sorts of diverse political view subreddits and Twitter handles. Unfortunately, it's still hardly comprehensive is a lot of work to analyze and distill.
- ethbr0 3y ago
  What we're really talking about here is boting any deviation from a tabula rasa appraisal of reality, then clustering that into an affiliation/quality, right? I.e. Christians (as an averaged whole) can look at the same situation as a blank slate and have a statistically significant and consistently different perspective As can scientists. As can maybe microbiologists and industrial chemists. The point of the clustering isn't that the tags are pejorative, but that they're predictive metadata on any source's bias. And often times that's currently unexposed. I see a post by echelon, but only by the content of that single post (and maybe some prior HN contact) can I reconstruct his typical perspectives.
pydry 3y ago
It would probably include some institutions masquerading as representatives of ethnic groups but that isnt quite the same thing.

I don't see why you can't. Throw religion in while you're at it. Even interest groups around other classes: disability, socioeconomic, etc. You can absolutely say a newspaper (or individual columnist or editor) is pro-LGBT, pro-Israel, pro-Palestine, pro-Mormon, pro-Amish, pro-Atheist, etc. That shouldn't be controversial. Wikipedia can and does do this in a relatively neutral way. If your classification is meant to disparage a group, then I'd see the trouble. Don't do that. I want an up to date, well rounded view of how everyone sees the world. A system capable of getting me to see geopolitical events in other perspectives is useful, even if I ultimately choose to uphold my existing beliefs. FWIW, I subscribe to all sorts of diverse political view subreddits and Twitter handles. Unfortunately, it's still hardly comprehensive is a lot of work to analyze and distill.

ethbr0 3y ago
What we're really talking about here is boting any deviation from a tabula rasa appraisal of reality, then clustering that into an affiliation/quality, right? I.e. Christians (as an averaged whole) can look at the same situation as a blank slate and have a statistically significant and consistently different perspective As can scientists. As can maybe microbiologists and industrial chemists. The point of the clustering isn't that the tags are pejorative, but that they're predictive metadata on any source's bias. And often times that's currently unexposed. I see a post by echelon, but only by the content of that single post (and maybe some prior HN contact) can I reconstruct his typical perspectives.

pydry 3y ago

It would probably include some institutions masquerading as representatives of ethnic groups but that isnt quite the same thing.