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Moreover, Bing, ChatGPT hasn't even made a dent in Google's search engine market share [0]. [0] https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share https://g

Moreover, Bing, ChatGPT hasn't even made a dent in Google's search engine market share [0]. [0] https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share

oezi 3y ago
Surprising, given that ChatGPT has replaced between 50% and 75% of my searches by volume.
- belter 3y ago
  They get their revenue, from companies who naively believe people browse the web without Adblock. Not from people searching...
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 3y ago
  Maybe I'm missing something, but Google search (through Startpage) still is faster and more relevant for me, not to mention it does return results newer than 2021 ...
- layer8 3y ago
  You’re an outlier.
- jimsimmons 3y ago
  I’m baffled to see comments like this here. To the point that I wonder if HN is basically Twitter at this point. How can you trust a single thing the model says? I ask GPT4 for PPO code, it gives me basic actor critic with a loss with constants added. I ask it about a data filtering technique and it hallucinates concepts, libraries, papers and even companies. It’s good as a fallback to search. Also maybe for judgement free brainstorming. But I don’t see how it can replace Google for serious queries. Are you sure you’re not just chatting with it? Do you mind sharing your recent 10 queries with us
  - oezi 3y ago
    I found that GPT-4 is surprisingly trustworthy for my queries which are mostly programming related and focused on common libraries (nothing too esoteric). The reason why instead of having 60 google searches in a day, I now have frequently less than 30 is that ChatGPT is much quicker when I don't exactely know how to search for something. For instance I recently looked for an easy way to have a Rails app inline CSS when creating a Mailer template. I wasted 5 Google searches which showed various stackoverflow questions which quite didn't match what I wanted (reuse exisiting CSS from a controller). Asking this as a question to ChatGPT has directly led me to the premailer gem. In hindsight, my search terms were too generic, but ChatGPT was the expert programmer who just pointed me to the right gem based on what I was rambling about. I am also getting turned off Stackoverflow in general now. Grasping the random adjacent question/answer of SO is often more mental work than checking if ChatGPT is hallucinating. Joel and company did well in selling SO just before ChatGPT hit.
    - jimsimmons 3y ago
      I can see that. It can implement a basic transformer in JAX/PyTorch just fine. Anything else it breaks
- xiphias2 3y ago
  For me it's ChatGPT4, but ChatGPT (the public version that people can generally use without paying) doesn't hit the bar.
chaoz_ 3y ago
This does not include ChatGPT traffic tho :)

oezi 3y ago

Surprising, given that ChatGPT has replaced between 50% and 75% of my searches by volume.

belter 3y ago
They get their revenue, from companies who naively believe people browse the web without Adblock. Not from people searching...
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 3y ago
Maybe I'm missing something, but Google search (through Startpage) still is faster and more relevant for me, not to mention it does return results newer than 2021 ...
layer8 3y ago
You’re an outlier.
jimsimmons 3y ago
I’m baffled to see comments like this here. To the point that I wonder if HN is basically Twitter at this point. How can you trust a single thing the model says? I ask GPT4 for PPO code, it gives me basic actor critic with a loss with constants added. I ask it about a data filtering technique and it hallucinates concepts, libraries, papers and even companies. It’s good as a fallback to search. Also maybe for judgement free brainstorming. But I don’t see how it can replace Google for serious queries. Are you sure you’re not just chatting with it? Do you mind sharing your recent 10 queries with us
- oezi 3y ago
  I found that GPT-4 is surprisingly trustworthy for my queries which are mostly programming related and focused on common libraries (nothing too esoteric). The reason why instead of having 60 google searches in a day, I now have frequently less than 30 is that ChatGPT is much quicker when I don't exactely know how to search for something. For instance I recently looked for an easy way to have a Rails app inline CSS when creating a Mailer template. I wasted 5 Google searches which showed various stackoverflow questions which quite didn't match what I wanted (reuse exisiting CSS from a controller). Asking this as a question to ChatGPT has directly led me to the premailer gem. In hindsight, my search terms were too generic, but ChatGPT was the expert programmer who just pointed me to the right gem based on what I was rambling about. I am also getting turned off Stackoverflow in general now. Grasping the random adjacent question/answer of SO is often more mental work than checking if ChatGPT is hallucinating. Joel and company did well in selling SO just before ChatGPT hit.
  - jimsimmons 3y ago
    I can see that. It can implement a basic transformer in JAX/PyTorch just fine. Anything else it breaks
xiphias2 3y ago
For me it's ChatGPT4, but ChatGPT (the public version that people can generally use without paying) doesn't hit the bar.

chaoz_ 3y ago

This does not include ChatGPT traffic tho :)