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I have a Galaxy Nexus, and I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I find Flash works pretty well on the device. Granted, I only use it for video content

by EnderMB 15y ago

I have a Galaxy Nexus, and I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I find Flash works pretty well on the device. Granted, I only use it for video content on sites like the BBC, but the underlying functionality is fine. I don't think Flash has a future on mobile devices, but HTML5-based solutions aren't up to scratch for general use yet, so I don't think Adobe should throw in the towel just yet.

huggyface 15y ago
Same experience -- Flash works close to perfectly on my Galaxy S II. This isn't a technology move, however, but rather is a revenue move: Adobe makes no money from Flash, but instead makes money from authoring tools. The lack of an iOS target is killing the authoring tools on the Flash side (who would build a new site or delivery mechanism using Flash when you know it cuts out a huge portion of the market?). So Adobe is refocusing on HTML5 tools. Even though Flash is useful today, Google doesn't want to inherit the cost and risk of developing it on mobile so....no more Flash.
- zura 15y ago
  Regarding targeting iOS, there are tools such as http://www.haxenme.org/ http://www.haxenme.org/ Not really Flash but quite close.
  - talmand 15y ago
    AIR is Adobe's way of targeting iOS.
51Cards 15y ago
Agreed as well. I often make use of Flash on both my tablet and my Nexus One. The times I notice it most is when I'm using the new Firefox Mobile and I have to copy the URL and paste it into the stock browser to get to flash content. That tedious process makes me realize I do it a lot more than I expected I would. I am very very disappointed by this decision.
- eschulte 15y ago
  Sure this is a temporary inconvenience, but you're just feeling the growing pains of the web leaving behind flash (yes everywhere, not just mobile) which simplifies the space and long-term is a good thing for developers and consumers of web content.
- gcp 15y ago
  Try the new Firefox Native for Android (in Aurora or Nightly). It fully supports Flash.
melling 15y ago
The real problem is that most developers have to build with mobile in mind. Android tablets (and phones) running Chrome will be great. Apple has sold 55 million iPads and the rate will increase. We're going to have a billion mobile devices that won't run Flash in 2-3 years. Yes, Flash can still do stuff that HTML5 can't, but it really doesn't matter.
laconian 15y ago
My experience is that Flash executes fine, but it's awful for touchscreens - dragging, zooming, and clicking get all muddied up within the context of a Flash plugin rectangle.
saturdaysaint 15y ago
How is HTML5 not up to scratch? Genuinely curious. It's probably been over a year since I've needed to reach for a PC for a Flash site (then again, "apps" have filled many of those use-case gaps).
- mvelie 15y ago
  As much as this might not be popular, different advertising inside the stream (before and during), is difficult. In addition. doing things like overlays on the video is currently impossible in html5.
  - zbuc 15y ago
    I thought popcorn.js was a pure HTML5 solution? Does it secretly use Flash or something?
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voidrandom 15y ago
I have a Toshiba Thrive tablet and have found Flash there to be quite useable for most apps that aren't games and even a lot of those work fine. I think Flash could have a future, if Adobe actually put work into making it more integrated (and Apple let them).

by EnderMB 15y ago

huggyface 15y ago

Same experience -- Flash works close to perfectly on my Galaxy S II. This isn't a technology move, however, but rather is a revenue move: Adobe makes no money from Flash, but instead makes money from authoring tools. The lack of an iOS target is killing the authoring tools on the Flash side (who would build a new site or delivery mechanism using Flash when you know it cuts out a huge portion of the market?). So Adobe is refocusing on HTML5 tools. Even though Flash is useful today, Google doesn't want to inherit the cost and risk of developing it on mobile so....no more Flash.

zura 15y ago
Regarding targeting iOS, there are tools such as http://www.haxenme.org/ http://www.haxenme.org/ Not really Flash but quite close.
- talmand 15y ago
  AIR is Adobe's way of targeting iOS.

51Cards 15y ago

Agreed as well. I often make use of Flash on both my tablet and my Nexus One. The times I notice it most is when I'm using the new Firefox Mobile and I have to copy the URL and paste it into the stock browser to get to flash content. That tedious process makes me realize I do it a lot more than I expected I would. I am very very disappointed by this decision.

eschulte 15y ago
Sure this is a temporary inconvenience, but you're just feeling the growing pains of the web leaving behind flash (yes everywhere, not just mobile) which simplifies the space and long-term is a good thing for developers and consumers of web content.
gcp 15y ago
Try the new Firefox Native for Android (in Aurora or Nightly). It fully supports Flash.

melling 15y ago

The real problem is that most developers have to build with mobile in mind. Android tablets (and phones) running Chrome will be great. Apple has sold 55 million iPads and the rate will increase. We're going to have a billion mobile devices that won't run Flash in 2-3 years. Yes, Flash can still do stuff that HTML5 can't, but it really doesn't matter.

laconian 15y ago

My experience is that Flash executes fine, but it's awful for touchscreens - dragging, zooming, and clicking get all muddied up within the context of a Flash plugin rectangle.

saturdaysaint 15y ago

How is HTML5 not up to scratch? Genuinely curious. It's probably been over a year since I've needed to reach for a PC for a Flash site (then again, "apps" have filled many of those use-case gaps).

mvelie 15y ago
As much as this might not be popular, different advertising inside the stream (before and during), is difficult. In addition. doing things like overlays on the video is currently impossible in html5.
- zbuc 15y ago
  I thought popcorn.js was a pure HTML5 solution? Does it secretly use Flash or something?

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voidrandom 15y ago

I have a Toshiba Thrive tablet and have found Flash there to be quite useable for most apps that aren't games and even a lot of those work fine. I think Flash could have a future, if Adobe actually put work into making it more integrated (and Apple let them).