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Peterson is indeed quite the victim, but I wonder how much of that is down to his drug addiction and attempted crash treatment? There are many countries on Ear

Peterson is indeed quite the victim, but I wonder how much of that is down to his drug addiction and attempted crash treatment? There are many countries on Earth that score higher on the KPIs you listed (though birthrate is lowering most everywhere); perhaps you could look to them as models.

ameminator 4y ago
I don't disagree about the addiction in regards to Peterson, but I do think, in part, the social pressure eventually got to him. Either way, I don't consider him as important a voice in this space as he used to be. To your other point, I was thinking in the context of modern Liberal/Western democracies, which have similar issues on those KPIs. Certainly, Asian and certain European countries have far different issues than the ones in North America, which is the context I was focusing on (and which the original article focused on). In any case, I don't necessarily think solutions that work in the Netherlands (a country of ~17 million people) will work across the entire US, especially when the cultures are so different. Either way. it's hard to dispute that there are many positive male role models for young men today, and the issues only get worse from there.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  It occurs to me that I have no idea what anyone means by just about anything anymore. I don't know what culture is supposed to mean. I don't know who people who have problems with culture think can actually fix culture (it's never the government from what I can tell; they tend to be very anti-government). I don't even know what they mean by positive male role models - Bill Gates? Elon Musk? Joe Biden? Donald Trump? Tom Hanks? Dave Chappelle? The Pope? There seem like a near infinite number of possible role models, but I don't know what is supposed to be positive.

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Peterson is indeed quite the victim, but I wonder how much of that is down to his drug addiction and attempted crash treatment? There are many countries on Ear

by hotpotamus 4y ago

ameminator 4y ago
I don't disagree about the addiction in regards to Peterson, but I do think, in part, the social pressure eventually got to him. Either way, I don't consider him as important a voice in this space as he used to be. To your other point, I was thinking in the context of modern Liberal/Western democracies, which have similar issues on those KPIs. Certainly, Asian and certain European countries have far different issues than the ones in North America, which is the context I was focusing on (and which the original article focused on). In any case, I don't necessarily think solutions that work in the Netherlands (a country of ~17 million people) will work across the entire US, especially when the cultures are so different. Either way. it's hard to dispute that there are many positive male role models for young men today, and the issues only get worse from there.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  It occurs to me that I have no idea what anyone means by just about anything anymore. I don't know what culture is supposed to mean. I don't know who people who have problems with culture think can actually fix culture (it's never the government from what I can tell; they tend to be very anti-government). I don't even know what they mean by positive male role models - Bill Gates? Elon Musk? Joe Biden? Donald Trump? Tom Hanks? Dave Chappelle? The Pope? There seem like a near infinite number of possible role models, but I don't know what is supposed to be positive.