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>All that tracking data will be sent back to the mothership. First, Apple will deny that there's data collection. Then they will say they're keeping the data pr
by ajdude 4y ago
>All that tracking data will be sent back to the mothership. First, Apple will deny that there's data collection. Then they will say they're keeping the data private. Then they will say it's being only being used for "anonymous tracking". Then it will come out it's being sold for marketing purposes.
Do we have any records of Apple doing this previously?
- Teever 4y agoIts basically the MO of the entire tech industry since internet connectivity became ubiquitous.
- r00fus 4y agoYou’re not answering the question are you?
- Animats 4y agoYes.[1][2][3] [1] https://fossbytes.com/apple-data-collection-explained/ https://fossbytes.com/apple-data-collection-explained/ [2] https://www.wired.com/story/apple-privacy-data-collection/ https://www.wired.com/story/apple-privacy-data-collection/ [3] https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/14/apple_data_collection_lawsuit/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/14/apple_data_collection...
- microtherion 4y ago"Now that we’ve established that Apple collects and uses your data to serve ads, does it sell your data too? Turns out the answer is No, Apple doesn’t sell your data to third-party advertisers." Thanks for providing your own refutations. Now stop lying.
- fshbbdssbbgdd 4y agoA lot of people seem to define “selling your data” to mean “selling ads that are measured with your data”. If it’s “selling your data” when FB does that, the same is true when it’s Apple.
- Animats 4y agoIf you can run an ad aimed at a specific group via Apple, as the advertiser you can track who gets the ad and thus track who is in that group. It's inherent in ad tracking.
- heavyset_go 4y agoGoogle doesn't sell your data, either, and neither does Facebook. That's a technicality that doesn't mean much.
- MrOwnPut 4y agoThe whole privacy thing started because of FB selling user data to Cambridge Analytica and it getting leaked.
- mardifoufs 4y agoWhat? Not at all, from what I recall. When did it come out that FB sold the data to Cambridge Analytica? I thought they mostly abused/misused a "loophole"
- thomasahle 4y agoThey didn't sell any data to Cambridge Analytica. CA just ran apps (quizzes) on Facebook at a time where such apps would be given too many permissions by default. In particular they'd have access to the user's friend list. Much like apps on iPhones back in the day.
- MrOwnPut 4y agoAh I see. So the data that FB collected was leaked to 3rd parties because of the systems they put in place exposed it. That's not much better. The end result was the same, and it let to a wave of privacy resulting in Apple locking down their app permissions further, and FB throwing a fit about it.
- thomasahle 4y agoI think it let everyone to really lock down their APIs. I used to meet startup founders who unironically told me their monetization plan was to mine users contacts and other information and sell it on. "Everybody's doing it" they'd tell me. I think people are only annoyed at Apple because they use that same locked down information for their own services, including their ad network. Though of course Facebook does that too.
- kaba0 4y agoNone of them included anything that is not almost a technical requirement. The first one is especially biased against apple, it lists a bunch of basic things comparing apple and google showing how “they are the same”, but it’s only things like transactional information.. like how else do you even pay otherwise in the AppStore? Age is required for any Family feature. Google is eons worse, but for some reason more interesting categories were not listed at all.