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This idea punches down. Journalists work so hard to complete the work they do. They do not need this. And as noted elsewhere, AI is not inherently unbiased. In

This idea punches down. Journalists work so hard to complete the work they do. They do not need this. And as noted elsewhere, AI is not inherently unbiased. In fact, one of the big problems with AI is that it introduces systemic bias, and understanding the role of fairness is very important here. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22916602/ai-bias-fairness-tradeoffs-artificial-intelligence https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22916602/ai-bias-fairness... I would also raise the point that journalism is actually moving past this idea of objectivity at all costs, where writers intentionally wear their point of view on their sleeve. It is no longer a negative to be purely unbiased. In fact, there are real concerns that objectivity leads to important questions not being asked or presented. (You might have heard the term “the view from nowhere.” That’s what I’m getting at.) To be clear, the work of journalists should not go unchallenged, but this feels like something you should spend time actually talking to some experts on journalism before you actually build it. The mindset you’re presenting here does not suggest you have.

guywithahat 4y ago
This doesn’t replace journalists, it’s just an AI driven link aggregator. That said as others have mentioned, LLVM’s are inherently biased through their training and this site only picks from moderate and left wing sites, bringing into question whether it could ever be unbiased.
- Kye 4y ago
  Just trying to settle on a definition on left, moderate, etc would grind this thing to a halt. Most of what people call left is center by any view I would consider well-founded. Then there are places where what passes for center in the US would be far right. Not trying to classify would make choosing sources that are actually representative impossible unless the creator were operating under the illusion that unbiased sources are a thing.
  - guywithahat 4y ago
    Honestly I agree, it's a matter of perspective and even most self described left or right-wing outlets will have journalists who occasionally write articles that swing the other way. That said you can find the publishers they use in this list https://github.com/joshwallerr/newsnotfound/blob/main/scrape.py https://github.com/joshwallerr/newsnotfound/blob/main/scrape... if you want to make your own decision. Further I want to add I don't think this is a bad idea, I just think the idea of collecting "unbiased news", although desirable, is unfortunately impossible. The idea and model they've developed however may be very good.
- shortformblog 4y ago
  Its positioning is designed to question the legitimacy and objectivity of traditional journalism while positioning itself as an alternative. That deserves more pushback than the average aggregator does.

guywithahat 4y ago

This doesn’t replace journalists, it’s just an AI driven link aggregator. That said as others have mentioned, LLVM’s are inherently biased through their training and this site only picks from moderate and left wing sites, bringing into question whether it could ever be unbiased.

Kye 4y ago
Just trying to settle on a definition on left, moderate, etc would grind this thing to a halt. Most of what people call left is center by any view I would consider well-founded. Then there are places where what passes for center in the US would be far right. Not trying to classify would make choosing sources that are actually representative impossible unless the creator were operating under the illusion that unbiased sources are a thing.
- guywithahat 4y ago
  Honestly I agree, it's a matter of perspective and even most self described left or right-wing outlets will have journalists who occasionally write articles that swing the other way. That said you can find the publishers they use in this list https://github.com/joshwallerr/newsnotfound/blob/main/scrape.py https://github.com/joshwallerr/newsnotfound/blob/main/scrape... if you want to make your own decision. Further I want to add I don't think this is a bad idea, I just think the idea of collecting "unbiased news", although desirable, is unfortunately impossible. The idea and model they've developed however may be very good.
shortformblog 4y ago
Its positioning is designed to question the legitimacy and objectivity of traditional journalism while positioning itself as an alternative. That deserves more pushback than the average aggregator does.