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Haha wow that is so ridiculous it's awesome. Seeing both the Linux root and Windows root with Program Files living right next to usr, etc. is _wild_. Very cool

Haha wow that is so ridiculous it's awesome. Seeing both the Linux root and Windows root with Program Files living right next to usr, etc. is _wild_. Very cool hack!

chmod775 3y ago
Given there's now native NTFS support in the Linux kernel, you could also do that that the other way around.
- flatiron 3y ago
  I guess that paragon driver got merged. I remember the pull request…
- josephcsible 3y ago
  I wonder which direction causes more breakage for the non-native OS.
  - jwrallie 3y ago
    I think getting around permissions would be an issue but when I was starting on Linux I remember there was a way to install to Fat32 inside a directory in parallel with Windows 95. The distro was called Phat, so the concept is not exactly new.
    - watmough 3y ago
      Yep, just posted about this. Late 90's right? I think it was Ygdrassil, or maybe a free distro off of a CD. Great investment of time as it got me into the oilfield doing tech support. Running Rocky 8 on a P1 Gen4 now, so come a long way from my 486/Dx2.
  - sebazzz 3y ago
    I suppose you could store the chmod and group/owner in an NTFS alternative data stream, or reserve a special file on the file system that acts like the MFT.
- alexvoda 3y ago
  Indeed: https://gist.github.com/motorailgun/cc2c573f253d0893f429a165b5f851ee https://gist.github.com/motorailgun/cc2c573f253d0893f429a165... Of course you can also do a cursed setup with 2 partitions: windows on Btrfs and Linux on NTFS just to maximize the chaotic nonsense.
userbinator 3y ago
This is what we hoped WSL would be like, but it turned out very, very different.
- PhilipRoman 3y ago
  Can you elaborate? It seems to me that this is exactly how WSL works. \\wsl$\<distro> provides access to the Linux filesystem
  - jmmv 3y ago
    WSL 1 was mostly like this, where Linux shared the file system with Windows, albeit in a subdirectory. WSL 2 is a completely different beast, with Linux storing its file system in a virtual disk image. \\wsl$\ just gives you the illusion of being the same system, but that’s just a networked file system. See https://jmmv.dev/2020/11/wsl-lost-potential.html https://jmmv.dev/2020/11/wsl-lost-potential.html
- eviks 3y ago
  Yeah, very unfortunate they gave up :(

Haha wow that is so ridiculous it's awesome. Seeing both the Linux root and Windows root with Program Files living right next to usr, etc. is _wild_. Very cool hack!

chmod775 3y ago

Given there's now native NTFS support in the Linux kernel, you could also do that that the other way around.

flatiron 3y ago
I guess that paragon driver got merged. I remember the pull request…
josephcsible 3y ago
I wonder which direction causes more breakage for the non-native OS.
- jwrallie 3y ago
  I think getting around permissions would be an issue but when I was starting on Linux I remember there was a way to install to Fat32 inside a directory in parallel with Windows 95. The distro was called Phat, so the concept is not exactly new.
  - watmough 3y ago
    Yep, just posted about this. Late 90's right? I think it was Ygdrassil, or maybe a free distro off of a CD. Great investment of time as it got me into the oilfield doing tech support. Running Rocky 8 on a P1 Gen4 now, so come a long way from my 486/Dx2.
- sebazzz 3y ago
  I suppose you could store the chmod and group/owner in an NTFS alternative data stream, or reserve a special file on the file system that acts like the MFT.
alexvoda 3y ago
Indeed: https://gist.github.com/motorailgun/cc2c573f253d0893f429a165b5f851ee https://gist.github.com/motorailgun/cc2c573f253d0893f429a165... Of course you can also do a cursed setup with 2 partitions: windows on Btrfs and Linux on NTFS just to maximize the chaotic nonsense.

userbinator 3y ago

This is what we hoped WSL would be like, but it turned out very, very different.

PhilipRoman 3y ago
Can you elaborate? It seems to me that this is exactly how WSL works. \\wsl$\<distro> provides access to the Linux filesystem
- jmmv 3y ago
  WSL 1 was mostly like this, where Linux shared the file system with Windows, albeit in a subdirectory. WSL 2 is a completely different beast, with Linux storing its file system in a virtual disk image. \\wsl$\ just gives you the illusion of being the same system, but that’s just a networked file system. See https://jmmv.dev/2020/11/wsl-lost-potential.html https://jmmv.dev/2020/11/wsl-lost-potential.html
eviks 3y ago
Yeah, very unfortunate they gave up :(