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> actively retaliate against students who try to stand up for their faith. Outside of chain emails and the movie "God's Not Dead", has this really happened? An

> actively retaliate against students who try to stand up for their faith. Outside of chain emails and the movie "God's Not Dead", has this really happened? Anecdata, but when I took an intro to philosophy course my professor was pretty open to religious people talking about their justification for stuff. For that matter, I took a "religious ethics" class, which spent a not-insignificant time talking about Christian ethics (in addition to a lot of other popular religions). It was actually a pretty interesting class. This was at a public school, evidently.

natpalmer1776 4y ago
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drstewart 4y ago
>Outside of chain emails and the movie "God's Not Dead", has this really happened? As often as the OPs scenarios have happened, which you were strangely quiet on questioning the validity of. Just an oversight, I'm sure.
- tombert 4y ago
  Ok, so are you saying that “never” is the answer to both?
  - drstewart 4y ago
    Yes
    - bsder 4y ago
      You would be wrong. I chose those scenarios specifically because I know the teachers and professors who had gadflies coming after them. My own father used to have to deal with things as a high school English and history teacher due to a local Catholic priest. Tiny-ass town, practically all Caucasian population, rural as hell. And even he had to deal with these kinds of idiots. Tenure meant he could effectively tell them to pound sand. I can't imagine the number of nitwits that college professors have to fend off. I guess we're about to find out.
      - tombert 4y ago
        I teach CS, so I haven’t had any threats or disputes with local churches or anything. However, I have had to deal with angry parents screaming at me because they just don’t understand why their kid is failing. One of them even pulled up my LinkedIn and tried to tattle on me to the chairperson [1]. If I’m getting complaints like that from parents in a pretty un-controversial thing like programming, I suspect people teaching evolution or history have it way worse. [1] They seemed to think it was some smoking gun that I had another job, in addition to teaching, and thought that the chairperson should be informed. The chairperson called me into their office and asked what it was about, I showed them the previous email correspondence, and they laughed, since I had already been pretty straightforward about my current work.

natpalmer1776 4y ago

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drstewart 4y ago

>Outside of chain emails and the movie "God's Not Dead", has this really happened? As often as the OPs scenarios have happened, which you were strangely quiet on questioning the validity of. Just an oversight, I'm sure.

tombert 4y ago
Ok, so are you saying that “never” is the answer to both?
- drstewart 4y ago
  Yes
  - bsder 4y ago
    You would be wrong. I chose those scenarios specifically because I know the teachers and professors who had gadflies coming after them. My own father used to have to deal with things as a high school English and history teacher due to a local Catholic priest. Tiny-ass town, practically all Caucasian population, rural as hell. And even he had to deal with these kinds of idiots. Tenure meant he could effectively tell them to pound sand. I can't imagine the number of nitwits that college professors have to fend off. I guess we're about to find out.
    - tombert 4y ago
      I teach CS, so I haven’t had any threats or disputes with local churches or anything. However, I have had to deal with angry parents screaming at me because they just don’t understand why their kid is failing. One of them even pulled up my LinkedIn and tried to tattle on me to the chairperson [1]. If I’m getting complaints like that from parents in a pretty un-controversial thing like programming, I suspect people teaching evolution or history have it way worse. [1] They seemed to think it was some smoking gun that I had another job, in addition to teaching, and thought that the chairperson should be informed. The chairperson called me into their office and asked what it was about, I showed them the previous email correspondence, and they laughed, since I had already been pretty straightforward about my current work.