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What's the saying, "if you remember the 80s, you weren't really there, man"? Or maybe it was the 60s. Anyway I, too, was there and despite trying desperately to

What's the saying, "if you remember the 80s, you weren't really there, man"? Or maybe it was the 60s. Anyway I, too, was there and despite trying desperately to forget the popular music of that era, I am quite confident that your recollection is wrong as it pertains to climate change. No, you only think you remember that Time magazine cover.

hinkley 4y ago
My recollection was that the warming guys spent the 70's trying to figure out how to be coherent, and at the first sign of the solar epicycle going the other way, a bunch of whataboutists started clanging the bell about climate cooling they could drown out the warming people. And it mostly worked. The first time I was ever mad about politics was in grade school, when some fake magazine for kids (probably one of the ads from Scholastic) had an interview with Ronald Reagan, and what the interviewer thought kids needed to know about Reagan was how crazy he was for jelly beans. If I had known the phrase, "What in the actual fuck?" I would have said it out loud. It would be 6 more years before someone summed up how terrifying the 1980's were and that man's name was Phil Collins (Genesis, Land of Confusion). But those bases were already loaded with... well, take your pick. You can go with Michael Keaton Movies about the crumbling economy or West German rock bands with a sprinkling of Sting ('Russians') while we all collectively crossed our fingers that we wouldn't wake up on The Day After.
- rurp 4y ago
  The exciting news is that we're probably heading into another one of these terrifying periods: between Russia's aggression, growing conflict with China, accelerating climate change, and potentially catastrophic effects from AI. If we survive, whole new generations will have a lot of vivid memories to look back on.
musictubes 4y ago
It’s behind a paywall but here is an article from a 1958 issue of Harpers discussing a pair of scientists, Ewing and Donn, had a theory about how the last ice age was caused by melting arctic ice. They were primarily trying to figure out what would cause the ocean to heat up so much so quickly. https://harpers.org/archive/1958/09/the-coming-ice-age/ https://harpers.org/archive/1958/09/the-coming-ice-age/ I have a distinct memory of my “science” textbook in 2nd grade circa 1981 had a section on the upcoming ice age. Once I realized that the book was old enough to not include the moon landing I didn’t pay much attention to it. In any case, the idea about an impending ice age was in the science zeitgeist, at least the layman understanding of it well before the 80s.
amanaplanacanal 4y ago
Good lord. Have you heard the popular music of today's era?

hinkley 4y ago

My recollection was that the warming guys spent the 70's trying to figure out how to be coherent, and at the first sign of the solar epicycle going the other way, a bunch of whataboutists started clanging the bell about climate cooling they could drown out the warming people. And it mostly worked. The first time I was ever mad about politics was in grade school, when some fake magazine for kids (probably one of the ads from Scholastic) had an interview with Ronald Reagan, and what the interviewer thought kids needed to know about Reagan was how crazy he was for jelly beans. If I had known the phrase, "What in the actual fuck?" I would have said it out loud. It would be 6 more years before someone summed up how terrifying the 1980's were and that man's name was Phil Collins (Genesis, Land of Confusion). But those bases were already loaded with... well, take your pick. You can go with Michael Keaton Movies about the crumbling economy or West German rock bands with a sprinkling of Sting ('Russians') while we all collectively crossed our fingers that we wouldn't wake up on The Day After.

rurp 4y ago
The exciting news is that we're probably heading into another one of these terrifying periods: between Russia's aggression, growing conflict with China, accelerating climate change, and potentially catastrophic effects from AI. If we survive, whole new generations will have a lot of vivid memories to look back on.

musictubes 4y ago

It’s behind a paywall but here is an article from a 1958 issue of Harpers discussing a pair of scientists, Ewing and Donn, had a theory about how the last ice age was caused by melting arctic ice. They were primarily trying to figure out what would cause the ocean to heat up so much so quickly. https://harpers.org/archive/1958/09/the-coming-ice-age/ https://harpers.org/archive/1958/09/the-coming-ice-age/ I have a distinct memory of my “science” textbook in 2nd grade circa 1981 had a section on the upcoming ice age. Once I realized that the book was old enough to not include the moon landing I didn’t pay much attention to it. In any case, the idea about an impending ice age was in the science zeitgeist, at least the layman understanding of it well before the 80s.

amanaplanacanal 4y ago

Good lord. Have you heard the popular music of today's era?