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My 2¢: We live in a world where all work goes to the lowest bidder and people will always cut corners if they believe the liability won't fall on them. The en

My 2¢: We live in a world where all work goes to the lowest bidder and people will always cut corners if they believe the liability won't fall on them. The entire world could be safely powered off nuclear energy if it wasn't for pesky humans that will always lie, cheat, and steal from each other. Given that human greed is unavoidable and a nuclear accident can pollute an area for 10,000 years it's probably best to recognize our own flaws as we consider what to do with it. I mean, here in the US we have a hard time operating trains without catastrophic failure.

rullelito 4y ago
An alternative to emotional arguments is to look at the statistics.
- themagician 4y ago
  When you actually look at the statistics around large infrastructure projects the results are not comforting. Corners are always cut. Maintenance delayed. Just the "cost of doing business". Trust in both governments and large corporations is not exactly at an all time high. People know that companies will throw radioactive waste and scrap materials into the rivers if they can get away with it. Conversely, the emotional argument is the only one that brings nuclear power back. You must convince people that these projects can be done safely. You must convince people that, "This time will be different." Look at what just happened in Germany. Or don't.
  - Matticus_Rex 4y ago
    Or, you can simply educate people -- this time doesn't need to be very different (though it certainly can be), because already-existing nuclear is very safe. Liability prevents companies dumping radioactive material, and radioactive material is very cheap to store! There's no benefit from dumping it. Yes, mildly irradiated water sometimes gets into rivers, and if you look at the amounts and risks it turns out to be quite reasonable relative even to solar and wind. What happened in Germany was not rational, and it was not by any means good for the environment, or a net positive for German health and well-being.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  That argument is not emotional, it is rational: assessment highlights risks. The quantification of those risks is another matter. The parallel fact, for example, that nuclear weapons require maintenance, and that maintenance requires budget, may make some shiver - not because of an "emotional" idea. It is because you look. -- Update: children behave.
- HDThoreaun 4y ago
  The statistics confirm, people are greedy and while quickly cut corners when given the opportunity to enrich themselves in the short term.

rullelito 4y ago

An alternative to emotional arguments is to look at the statistics.

themagician 4y ago
When you actually look at the statistics around large infrastructure projects the results are not comforting. Corners are always cut. Maintenance delayed. Just the "cost of doing business". Trust in both governments and large corporations is not exactly at an all time high. People know that companies will throw radioactive waste and scrap materials into the rivers if they can get away with it. Conversely, the emotional argument is the only one that brings nuclear power back. You must convince people that these projects can be done safely. You must convince people that, "This time will be different." Look at what just happened in Germany. Or don't.
- Matticus_Rex 4y ago
  Or, you can simply educate people -- this time doesn't need to be very different (though it certainly can be), because already-existing nuclear is very safe. Liability prevents companies dumping radioactive material, and radioactive material is very cheap to store! There's no benefit from dumping it. Yes, mildly irradiated water sometimes gets into rivers, and if you look at the amounts and risks it turns out to be quite reasonable relative even to solar and wind. What happened in Germany was not rational, and it was not by any means good for the environment, or a net positive for German health and well-being.
mdp2021 4y ago
That argument is not emotional, it is rational: assessment highlights risks. The quantification of those risks is another matter. The parallel fact, for example, that nuclear weapons require maintenance, and that maintenance requires budget, may make some shiver - not because of an "emotional" idea. It is because you look. -- Update: children behave.
HDThoreaun 4y ago
The statistics confirm, people are greedy and while quickly cut corners when given the opportunity to enrich themselves in the short term.