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People are people. First responders are told to go to a place and do a thing. That is what they do. They do this dozens of times a day. Sometimes the compute

People are people. First responders are told to go to a place and do a thing. That is what they do. They do this dozens of times a day. Sometimes the computer is stupid.

HideousKojima 3y ago
>First responders are told to go to a place and do a thing. By whom? There's still a human blindly trusting what the computer says somewhere in the loop, and we can and should expect them to do due diligence for a matter where lives are on the line, like a raid.
- teddyh 3y ago
  You can “expect” all you like, but doing so won’t make it better. The best way to solve this problem would, as you say, to have people do better. But that is not happening, and the problem still needs solving as soon as possible.
  - romwell 3y ago
    >You can “expect” all you like, but doing so won’t make it better. The best way to solve this problem would, as you say, to have people do better. But that is not happening, and the problem still needs solving as soon as possible. Yes. And this is what #defundthepolice is about, once you learn enough about it.
    - treeman79 3y ago
      And every city that defunds turns into a hell scape.
      - romwell 3y ago
        >And every city that defunds turns into a hell scape. [citation needed] Last time I checked, that wasn't the case[1]. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jersey-city-disbanded-its-police-force-here-s-what-n1231677 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jersey-city-disband...
marcellus23 3y ago
They are not just "people," they're people with guns and the power to kill innocent citizens and destroy their property with barely any consequences. It's reasonable to expect them to be a bit careful about their job.
- ALittleLight 3y ago
  It is reasonable to expect, but also they won't. The solution is fixing the software rather than being indignant about how people should use it correctly.
  - marcellus23 3y ago
    (It's trite but) you can do both.
  - romwell 3y ago
    >The solution is fixing the software No. The solution is fixing the system that allows these people to act with impunity. No matter how "fixed" the software is, they'll find ways to misuse it.
p_j_w 3y ago
>Sometimes the computer is stupid. Then the police SWAT teams need to take this into account before they go making life and death decisions, don't they?

People are people. First responders are told to go to a place and do a thing. That is what they do. They do this dozens of times a day. Sometimes the computer is stupid.

HideousKojima 3y ago

>First responders are told to go to a place and do a thing. By whom? There's still a human blindly trusting what the computer says somewhere in the loop, and we can and should expect them to do due diligence for a matter where lives are on the line, like a raid.

teddyh 3y ago
You can “expect” all you like, but doing so won’t make it better. The best way to solve this problem would, as you say, to have people do better. But that is not happening, and the problem still needs solving as soon as possible.
- romwell 3y ago
  >You can “expect” all you like, but doing so won’t make it better. The best way to solve this problem would, as you say, to have people do better. But that is not happening, and the problem still needs solving as soon as possible. Yes. And this is what #defundthepolice is about, once you learn enough about it.
  - treeman79 3y ago
    And every city that defunds turns into a hell scape.
    - romwell 3y ago
      >And every city that defunds turns into a hell scape. [citation needed] Last time I checked, that wasn't the case[1]. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jersey-city-disbanded-its-police-force-here-s-what-n1231677 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jersey-city-disband...

marcellus23 3y ago

They are not just "people," they're people with guns and the power to kill innocent citizens and destroy their property with barely any consequences. It's reasonable to expect them to be a bit careful about their job.

ALittleLight 3y ago
It is reasonable to expect, but also they won't. The solution is fixing the software rather than being indignant about how people should use it correctly.
- marcellus23 3y ago
  (It's trite but) you can do both.
- romwell 3y ago
  >The solution is fixing the software No. The solution is fixing the system that allows these people to act with impunity. No matter how "fixed" the software is, they'll find ways to misuse it.

p_j_w 3y ago

>Sometimes the computer is stupid. Then the police SWAT teams need to take this into account before they go making life and death decisions, don't they?