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I met her in 2003, along with her aides at a party I was invited to (in a fluke) in Palm Springs. She was a moron then, and now she's a senile moron. Her aide

• yieldcrv 3y ago
  That’s interesting because we’ve all had the same two decades to learn new things and I know many people her age that have there’s people that make excuses for it and there’s people that don’t. I don’t buy “brain plasticity”, my observation is that it comes down to who your peers are, what social consequences you have
• dang 3y ago
  Please make your substantive points without calling names. No one is saying you owe your least favorite senators better, but you owe the community better if you're posting here. I can't link to the guidelines because I'm on my phone - but this is in there!
  • Dalewyn 3y ago
    It's one thing to demand not calling ordinary people names, but Feinstein isn't an ordinary person. If one can't call a person in power names, that implies many things you probably didn't want to imply.
    • yieldcrv 3y ago
      That he’s not a free speech absolutist? big deal, nobody is no platform is, thats the expected default behavior everywhere you go and there is zero reason why HN would be different. I’m not even going to go into how this is a private platform with clearly stated rules for you because it doesn't even matter, just take the L
      • Dalewyn 3y ago
        dang is welcome to enforce rules as he pleases, it's his platform (or rather publishing space). But restricting speech concerning those in power imply things that I would presume he would not want to imply.
        • yieldcrv 3y ago
          implies what? I took a guess but you keep talking in riddles, use your words
          • Dalewyn 3y ago
            [flagged]
            • dang 3y ago
              None of those are implied. What I posted was bog-standard HN moderation. You could replace the name Feinstein with any other, or her party or politics with any other, and I'd have posted the same moderation response. I'm not sure what you're finding hard to understand about HN having a guideline that asks people not to call names or do flamewar.
              • Dalewyn 3y ago
                I don't have any complications with HN guidelines, but I do with the way they are enforced. I see plenty of posts that call people, both ordinary and public figures, "names" that go unflagged and unmoderated. I see plenty of meme posts that don't get flagged and moderated. I see political threads and subthreads all the time despite politics strictly being off-limits per guidelines. In fairness to you, you've never claimed HN is a free speech platform so I am perfectly fine with you publishing submitted threads and comments as you see fit. I'd even die, figuratively speaking, to protect your right to those freedoms of expression and association, and I would hope you will reciprocate the sentiment as a fellow American. However, the reality is the HN guidelines are not enforced equally, fairly, and objectively, so you will have to excuse me for rolling my eyes at all the inevitable noise that will create (including mine). We can get away with calling Trump, Gates, and Jobs among others names but not Feinstein? Please. I realize HN is short on manpower, but that is not an excuse.
    • JoeAltmaier 3y ago
      Sure you can namecall, but it's childish and ugly. Please don't do it around anyone you want to continue to have a reasonable conversation with.
    • dang 3y ago
      I covered that point (or thought I did!) with the second sentence in my GP comment. The issue is what it does to us as a community. That's significant. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      • Dalewyn 3y ago
        Comment in question concerned what the poster personally experienced, which clearly wasn't a pleasant/positive one. If you want to demand he prove he met Feinstein in person, well, that's certainly within your power as moderator and owner of this space. But as far as what he owes to the community, I think he doesn't have to explain anything of his experience interacting with someone. He interacted with Feinstein, his takeaway was she is a "senile moron". I for one won't fault him for that, but you obviously have a different take and that's fine. As an aside, the fact you flagged my comment as well implies very dark things. It is perhaps better I take my leave because I have no interest in enabling such matters. Though it does sadden me, in a deeply ironic way, that an American entity subscribes to such things. People have died to protect the right to speak ill of those in power.
        • borski 3y ago
          Here, I rewrote the parent comment with a set of substantive points rather than namecalling. Same message, but much more constructive in nature. “I met her in 2003, along with her aides at a party I was invited to (in a fluke) in Palm Springs. She was ignorant of tech and science then, and now she's the same but more senile (as happens with age). Her aides, who ended up hanging out with me all weekend, were a perfect illustration of the classic trope of donor class kids who weren't that smart but got into ivy League schools by legacy admissions. Zero intellectual curiosity, super aware of social status, everything they said seemed preplanned and inauthentic.... Just left me feeling gross.” I don’t think ‘dang would have had an issue with that wording. It doesn’t take much to be substantive rather than resorting to ad hominems; the latter is just easier.
        • dang 3y ago
          Users flagged your comment. I didn't touch it.