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I feel like we just have to hold out for another couple of decades - until there aren't any boomers left in government. This whole clusterfuck is a result of o

I feel like we just have to hold out for another couple of decades - until there aren't any boomers left in government. This whole clusterfuck is a result of old people not knowing their ass from a pihole.

JohnFen 4y ago
If history is any guide, the people who will replace the boomers will not be any different. The root cause is not related to age or generation, it's related to power.
- pksebben 4y ago
  You know, you're probably right and that makes me sad. That said, it's easy for the bad apples to spoil the bunch right now because most congress critters don't actually know what encryption is or how it works - I suppose my hope is that at some point, the Evil Ones™ will have a much harder time convincing the Dumb Ones™ that they're trying to 'protect children' with this kinda nonsense. Of course, then the posts just get kicked down the line to the next new tech that nobody groks, but at least perhaps we can stop fighting this specific one so hard and so frequently.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
betaby 4y ago
I EU and Canada such laws are pushed by relatively yang folks as well, like ones in their 40s.
- yakubin 4y ago
  It’s depressing that in modern times people in their 40s are considered young. In 1776 Alexander Hamilton was 21, Burr was 20, Thomas Jefferson was 33, Madison was 25, and Monroe was 18.
  - pcthrowaway 4y ago
    Why is that depressing? People live longer now. Though I guess it's depressing that people in their 20s and 30s can't afford kids now.
    - yakubin 4y ago
      People live longer, but biological youth isn't shifted. People in their 20s are at the top of mental and physical performance. But our gerontocracies bar people of that age from any positions of significant influence. People also mature more slowly these days, due to infantilisation of culture and sheltered upbringing.
bregma 4y ago
And you know, the boomers felt exactly the same about the generation they were replacing. At least some things don't change.
somenameforme 4y ago
You may want to check out the list of the sponsors of this bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1207/cosponsors https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/120... And that's just the sponsors, not the people who will vote for it. Some on that list do belong in nursing homes, but age is not a factor. It's mostly just the political establishment and newcomers hoping to join that establishment.

JohnFen 4y ago

If history is any guide, the people who will replace the boomers will not be any different. The root cause is not related to age or generation, it's related to power.

pksebben 4y ago
You know, you're probably right and that makes me sad. That said, it's easy for the bad apples to spoil the bunch right now because most congress critters don't actually know what encryption is or how it works - I suppose my hope is that at some point, the Evil Ones™ will have a much harder time convincing the Dumb Ones™ that they're trying to 'protect children' with this kinda nonsense. Of course, then the posts just get kicked down the line to the next new tech that nobody groks, but at least perhaps we can stop fighting this specific one so hard and so frequently.
SoftTalker 4y ago
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

betaby 4y ago

I EU and Canada such laws are pushed by relatively yang folks as well, like ones in their 40s.

yakubin 4y ago
It’s depressing that in modern times people in their 40s are considered young. In 1776 Alexander Hamilton was 21, Burr was 20, Thomas Jefferson was 33, Madison was 25, and Monroe was 18.
- pcthrowaway 4y ago
  Why is that depressing? People live longer now. Though I guess it's depressing that people in their 20s and 30s can't afford kids now.
  - yakubin 4y ago
    People live longer, but biological youth isn't shifted. People in their 20s are at the top of mental and physical performance. But our gerontocracies bar people of that age from any positions of significant influence. People also mature more slowly these days, due to infantilisation of culture and sheltered upbringing.

bregma 4y ago

And you know, the boomers felt exactly the same about the generation they were replacing. At least some things don't change.

somenameforme 4y ago

You may want to check out the list of the sponsors of this bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1207/cosponsors https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/120... And that's just the sponsors, not the people who will vote for it. Some on that list do belong in nursing homes, but age is not a factor. It's mostly just the political establishment and newcomers hoping to join that establishment.