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> Life hack: Put your resignation in writing with a date in the future. This sounds like such a neat way to deal with it. I wonder if it's legally valid in my

by kqr 4y ago

> Life hack: Put your resignation in writing with a date in the future. This sounds like such a neat way to deal with it. I wonder if it's legally valid in my jurisdiction (in Sweden.) I have never heard of it but yet again, why not?

jethro_tell 4y ago
I always do that, draft the email to my boss and hr, walk into my bosses office, send the email saying: "I will be ending my employment with ${company} effective ${two_weeks_from_now}. I'm giving ${X} weeks notice to afford ${company} the opportunity to transition my work and knowledge to other employees as they see fit. I appreciate the opportunity ${company} has given me and wish you all the best as you continue to advance ${company mission}" Then I say, "I'm quitting, my last day will be in ${two_weeks_from_now}" and there's already a record of how that conversation came about. No one's going to walk out and say they fired you and you're pretending to quit or strange shit like that.
brtkdotse 4y ago
Termination dates are in the employment contract 99.9% in Sweden. At most you’ll get a “lmao, no”.
- thunfischbrot 4y ago
  Notice periods are, as far as I know and in my experience, the _minimum_ number of weeks or months to give notice. Nothing is stopping you from giving notice earlier.
  - psychphysic 4y ago
    The question is can an employer truncate it? It seems like you could really harm a company by forcing them to pay you to nothing if because they don't want to start someone on a project they will definitely leave half way through.
    - thunfischbrot 4y ago
      If you continue fulfilling your responsibilities as an employee, I don't see why. If a longer planning horizon is needed, a longer notice period is the answer.
eckesicle 4y ago
No it’s not valid in Sweden (or anywhere else). The date at which your resignation starts to count is the date that your employer learns of your intent to leave. You are however free to agree on an arbitrary date with them as your last day. It’s not the date you put in the letterhead. That would be insane.
- thunfischbrot 4y ago
  I think that's not what was meant. You _can_ hand in your notice earlier than contractually necessary. If your notice period was 2 months, and you let your employer know, that you are quitting in 3 months, that's perfectly legal. Its not changing the date of the document, it's about the date of your intended departure you mention within it.
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- indymike 4y ago
  > It’s not the date you put in the letterhead. That would be insane. Clarification: I put in the body of the letter the effective date I will be leaving. Something like: "My final day will be December 12, 2018." The date in the letterhead has nothing to do with it.
  - rrobukef 4y ago
    If you're really mistrusting of your employer, you may not want to give them proof you notified them earlier.
    - thunfischbrot 4y ago
      If that was the motivation, you would need to not notify them earlier. Simple as that.
- throw0101b 4y ago
  > No it’s not valid in Sweden (or anywhere else). The date at which your resignation starts to count is the date that your employer learns of your intent to leave. "or anywhere else" is an exceedingly broad assertion. For Canada: > Yes, you do have to give notice of your resignation in Canada. The common law imposes a duty to provide notice of resignation on all employees. > However, you don’t have to give two weeks’ notice of your resignation in Canada per se. Rather, you have to give a “reasonable” amount of notice of your resignation, which may be more or less than two weeks’ notice. The amount of reasonable notice an employee has to give will depend on their specific circumstances, as discussed below. > The obligation to give reasonable notice is a general common law obligation of all employees. In Sure-Grip Fasteners Ltd. v. Allgrade Bolt & Chain Inc., [1993] 45 C.C.E.L. 276 (Ont. Gen. Div.) at pages 281-282, Justice Chapnik found: […] * https://duttonlaw.ca/do-you-have-to-give-two-weeks-notice-in-canada/ https://duttonlaw.ca/do-you-have-to-give-two-weeks-notice-in... During the 'notice period' you still have a job, though the employer may tell you to simply stay at home (and rescind access, etc).

by kqr 4y ago

jethro_tell 4y ago

I always do that, draft the email to my boss and hr, walk into my bosses office, send the email saying: "I will be ending my employment with ${company} effective ${two_weeks_from_now}. I'm giving ${X} weeks notice to afford ${company} the opportunity to transition my work and knowledge to other employees as they see fit. I appreciate the opportunity ${company} has given me and wish you all the best as you continue to advance ${company mission}" Then I say, "I'm quitting, my last day will be in ${two_weeks_from_now}" and there's already a record of how that conversation came about. No one's going to walk out and say they fired you and you're pretending to quit or strange shit like that.

brtkdotse 4y ago

Termination dates are in the employment contract 99.9% in Sweden. At most you’ll get a “lmao, no”.

thunfischbrot 4y ago
Notice periods are, as far as I know and in my experience, the _minimum_ number of weeks or months to give notice. Nothing is stopping you from giving notice earlier.
- psychphysic 4y ago
  The question is can an employer truncate it? It seems like you could really harm a company by forcing them to pay you to nothing if because they don't want to start someone on a project they will definitely leave half way through.
  - thunfischbrot 4y ago
    If you continue fulfilling your responsibilities as an employee, I don't see why. If a longer planning horizon is needed, a longer notice period is the answer.

eckesicle 4y ago

No it’s not valid in Sweden (or anywhere else). The date at which your resignation starts to count is the date that your employer learns of your intent to leave. You are however free to agree on an arbitrary date with them as your last day. It’s not the date you put in the letterhead. That would be insane.

thunfischbrot 4y ago
I think that's not what was meant. You _can_ hand in your notice earlier than contractually necessary. If your notice period was 2 months, and you let your employer know, that you are quitting in 3 months, that's perfectly legal. Its not changing the date of the document, it's about the date of your intended departure you mention within it.
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indymike 4y ago
> It’s not the date you put in the letterhead. That would be insane. Clarification: I put in the body of the letter the effective date I will be leaving. Something like: "My final day will be December 12, 2018." The date in the letterhead has nothing to do with it.
- rrobukef 4y ago
  If you're really mistrusting of your employer, you may not want to give them proof you notified them earlier.
  - thunfischbrot 4y ago
    If that was the motivation, you would need to not notify them earlier. Simple as that.
throw0101b 4y ago
> No it’s not valid in Sweden (or anywhere else). The date at which your resignation starts to count is the date that your employer learns of your intent to leave. "or anywhere else" is an exceedingly broad assertion. For Canada: > Yes, you do have to give notice of your resignation in Canada. The common law imposes a duty to provide notice of resignation on all employees. > However, you don’t have to give two weeks’ notice of your resignation in Canada per se. Rather, you have to give a “reasonable” amount of notice of your resignation, which may be more or less than two weeks’ notice. The amount of reasonable notice an employee has to give will depend on their specific circumstances, as discussed below. > The obligation to give reasonable notice is a general common law obligation of all employees. In Sure-Grip Fasteners Ltd. v. Allgrade Bolt & Chain Inc., [1993] 45 C.C.E.L. 276 (Ont. Gen. Div.) at pages 281-282, Justice Chapnik found: […] * https://duttonlaw.ca/do-you-have-to-give-two-weeks-notice-in-canada/ https://duttonlaw.ca/do-you-have-to-give-two-weeks-notice-in... During the 'notice period' you still have a job, though the employer may tell you to simply stay at home (and rescind access, etc).