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Facebook is based in the US, so of course it'll go by US standards. The tech companies in the article aren't based in India or China. As an aside, I don't know

Facebook is based in the US, so of course it'll go by US standards. The tech companies in the article aren't based in India or China. As an aside, I don't know if there's any US law against showing adult nudity on a website. Maybe there's a rule about users being over 18.

AlecSchueler 4y ago
Meta are dominant in their sector across the globe. Of course they follow American standards, but their dominance insures the rest of the world goes by American standards. Indeed there's no laws in the US that protect violent images whole covering the body, but that is the cultural standard which has been exported around the world. I get that you're making a point that, why give control abroad to governments when I'm the US companies self censor? First, what goes into the hands of companies versus the state also various culturally, and the US does have content laws other than the one you highlighted.
- hot_gril 4y ago
  About the cultural standards, what would be normal in some other parts of the world? At least in the US, parents don't want porn showing up on kids' social media, and a sizeable number of adults at least don't want other people to see it on their screen. Big social media site like FB probably has to encode this as a "no nudity" rule. I'm not sure about the violent images. There are definitely rules against showing bodily harm on FB, but I have no idea where the line is.
  - counttheforks 4y ago
    Breastfeeding is not porn
  - AlecSchueler 4y ago
    What would be normal? Like the poster above said, if my family goes to the beach and we take our shirts off, my girlfriend would be censored on Meta services but I wouldn't. Notice that your comment equates nudity with pornography. Where I'm from it's not normal to do that.
    - hot_gril 4y ago
      I didn't equate nudity and pornography, and Americans don't do that. I'm asking if porn is normal elsewhere (answer was no) and saying FB moderation board might be lumping them together because there aren't fair ways to designate porn vs not. If there's a social media site in some other country that doesn't have those rules, that'd be a good example.
      - AlecSchueler 4y ago
        The cultural component is that the female body is deemed as pornographic while the male body is not.
psychphysic 4y ago
Nah the difference is that our governments use the language that works for us. And they know that language because otherwise they wouldn't be in government. So the US wants Tiktok to change and uses the language that will resonate with Americans to ban it when Tiktok doesn't fold. China does the same with the companies it wants to change. That they listen is purely a financial decision.
- hot_gril 4y ago
  I don't agree with the proposed TikTok ban. It's straight up protectionism, or govt censorship.

AlecSchueler 4y ago

Meta are dominant in their sector across the globe. Of course they follow American standards, but their dominance insures the rest of the world goes by American standards. Indeed there's no laws in the US that protect violent images whole covering the body, but that is the cultural standard which has been exported around the world. I get that you're making a point that, why give control abroad to governments when I'm the US companies self censor? First, what goes into the hands of companies versus the state also various culturally, and the US does have content laws other than the one you highlighted.

hot_gril 4y ago
About the cultural standards, what would be normal in some other parts of the world? At least in the US, parents don't want porn showing up on kids' social media, and a sizeable number of adults at least don't want other people to see it on their screen. Big social media site like FB probably has to encode this as a "no nudity" rule. I'm not sure about the violent images. There are definitely rules against showing bodily harm on FB, but I have no idea where the line is.
- counttheforks 4y ago
  Breastfeeding is not porn
- AlecSchueler 4y ago
  What would be normal? Like the poster above said, if my family goes to the beach and we take our shirts off, my girlfriend would be censored on Meta services but I wouldn't. Notice that your comment equates nudity with pornography. Where I'm from it's not normal to do that.
  - hot_gril 4y ago
    I didn't equate nudity and pornography, and Americans don't do that. I'm asking if porn is normal elsewhere (answer was no) and saying FB moderation board might be lumping them together because there aren't fair ways to designate porn vs not. If there's a social media site in some other country that doesn't have those rules, that'd be a good example.
    - AlecSchueler 4y ago
      The cultural component is that the female body is deemed as pornographic while the male body is not.

psychphysic 4y ago

Nah the difference is that our governments use the language that works for us. And they know that language because otherwise they wouldn't be in government. So the US wants Tiktok to change and uses the language that will resonate with Americans to ban it when Tiktok doesn't fold. China does the same with the companies it wants to change. That they listen is purely a financial decision.

hot_gril 4y ago
I don't agree with the proposed TikTok ban. It's straight up protectionism, or govt censorship.