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Seems pretty much in line with what executives at other technology companies make. They are not in the bay area either. You can’t use FAANG as a measuring stick

Seems pretty much in line with what executives at other technology companies make. They are not in the bay area either. You can’t use FAANG as a measuring stick for everything.

no_wizard 4y ago
I don't work at a FAANG and I make within that range with presumably less responsibility than a CEO of any org as a Staff Engineer, and thats before we talk about stock options etc. I think the measuring stick is still valid, but I think importance of the job overrides some salary expectation here, I imagine. W3C is a very meaningful organization for tech on many important fronts.
- burkaman 4y ago
  You make an enormous amount of money, far more than the average nonprofit CEO, and far more than basically everyone in the world with an important job. I'm not criticizing you personally, I am also overpaid compared to every other profession, I'm just saying that if you see an issue here it's not with W3C, it's with capitalism or the structure of society or something. This salary range is in line with, to give one example, the executive director of Doctors Without Borders.
  - no_wizard 4y ago
    I do make better money than most, that I concede, but its by no means enormous. Its not F U money, its not guaranteed and I disagree that I'm overpaid, I work hard (and smart) and the company is making 20x what they pay me by comparison in exchange.
    - ricardobeat 4y ago
      It is, by all means, enormous. That puts you in the top 2% earners in the US, top 0.5% worldwide. You can certainly be in a situation where it doesn’t feel like a lot, but let’s not lose perspective.
      - no_wizard 4y ago
        I'm not. I genuinely feel that I am at least worth what I'm making, and its not enormous, its inline with my inputs to the companies success, as mentioned, they make fair more just from my labors than they pay me, by a wide margin. My perspective is that we should raise the minimums across the board, but that is a different discussion entirely than what I put forth here I think.
justrealist 4y ago
That's base without equity. There's no equity play here.
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justin66 4y ago
> Seems pretty much in line with what executives at other technology companies make. "Seems" is subjective. In reality, it's below average for a CEO.
- ricardobeat 4y ago
  Current data says the median is around 160k: https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Chief_Executive_Officer_(CEO)/Salary https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Chief_Executive_Off...
  - justin66 4y ago
    That is not as low as the Zip Recruiter number, but it's not an especially credible figure. In fairness, the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers are, while higher than what you shared, a lot lower than what I anticipated. https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes111011.htm https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes111011.htm Salary.com offers a median number over four times higher than the BLS, more in line with what I anticipated. I expect the job is defined rather differently between the two organizations, and Salary.com probably filters somehow to account for tens of millions of home businesses with "chief executives." BLS does not use the word "officer" once in their discussion of the position, which is interesting. https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/chief-executive-officer-salary https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/chief-execu...

Seems pretty much in line with what executives at other technology companies make. They are not in the bay area either. You can’t use FAANG as a measuring stick for everything.

no_wizard 4y ago

I don't work at a FAANG and I make within that range with presumably less responsibility than a CEO of any org as a Staff Engineer, and thats before we talk about stock options etc. I think the measuring stick is still valid, but I think importance of the job overrides some salary expectation here, I imagine. W3C is a very meaningful organization for tech on many important fronts.

burkaman 4y ago
You make an enormous amount of money, far more than the average nonprofit CEO, and far more than basically everyone in the world with an important job. I'm not criticizing you personally, I am also overpaid compared to every other profession, I'm just saying that if you see an issue here it's not with W3C, it's with capitalism or the structure of society or something. This salary range is in line with, to give one example, the executive director of Doctors Without Borders.
- no_wizard 4y ago
  I do make better money than most, that I concede, but its by no means enormous. Its not F U money, its not guaranteed and I disagree that I'm overpaid, I work hard (and smart) and the company is making 20x what they pay me by comparison in exchange.
  - ricardobeat 4y ago
    It is, by all means, enormous. That puts you in the top 2% earners in the US, top 0.5% worldwide. You can certainly be in a situation where it doesn’t feel like a lot, but let’s not lose perspective.
    - no_wizard 4y ago
      I'm not. I genuinely feel that I am at least worth what I'm making, and its not enormous, its inline with my inputs to the companies success, as mentioned, they make fair more just from my labors than they pay me, by a wide margin. My perspective is that we should raise the minimums across the board, but that is a different discussion entirely than what I put forth here I think.

justrealist 4y ago

That's base without equity. There's no equity play here.

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justin66 4y ago

> Seems pretty much in line with what executives at other technology companies make. "Seems" is subjective. In reality, it's below average for a CEO.

ricardobeat 4y ago
Current data says the median is around 160k: https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Chief_Executive_Officer_(CEO)/Salary https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Chief_Executive_Off...
- justin66 4y ago
  That is not as low as the Zip Recruiter number, but it's not an especially credible figure. In fairness, the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers are, while higher than what you shared, a lot lower than what I anticipated. https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes111011.htm https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes111011.htm Salary.com offers a median number over four times higher than the BLS, more in line with what I anticipated. I expect the job is defined rather differently between the two organizations, and Salary.com probably filters somehow to account for tens of millions of home businesses with "chief executives." BLS does not use the word "officer" once in their discussion of the position, which is interesting. https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/chief-executive-officer-salary https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/chief-execu...