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Fuck Oatly
- cauliflower99 3y agoI'm not sure what this is...but I like it.
- ketzo 3y agoHuh. This is definitely… a bold strategy. The PR folks behind this have a future in politics, for sure.
- kennyadam 3y agoHow does this hit the top 5 of the front page with no comments and 4 points? Regarding the link, quite a good PR strategy, but not sure it's very interesting discussion for a tech site?
- DoctorOW 3y ago> The basic algorithm divides points by a power of the time since a story was submitted. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
- gregjw 3y agoCharging at their controversies head on, brutal.
- gandalfgreybeer 3y agoJust from a design / information dissemination perspective, I honestly feel like this website falls flat. I scrolled through and still don’t know what’s really wrong about Oatly nor was my interest really piqued to find out more. The "next scandal coming soon" also feels off to me like it's more of a smear campaign. Of course, ymmv and Oatly might definitely have big issues but I didn't get it from this site.
- trizoza 3y agoThis reminds me of the Patagonia marketing "You don't need this jacket". Great stuff, love Oatly.
- shaftoe444 3y agoDrink actual milk it's better
- detrites 3y agoSome people actually can't, or are simply better off without. And many don't realise they're in that group. One part of the reason is the unavoidable fact that "milk" is not a singular, definable substance. It varies wildly, depending on locality. Eg look up permissible faecal, urine and pus levels where you are, versus other areas. Also, check out differences in store and hold requirements. Finally look at what substances cattle are allowed to be injected, or fed with. Each varies greatly.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y agoNot an option for lactose-intolerant people
- INTPenis 3y agoI'm from the home of Oatly and almost all my friends are vegan, but apparently Oatly has a really bad rep now. I don't follow that stuff because I will literally eat anything, but I trust my friends who are very conscious and aware of those things. I think the biggest issue is their ties to the Chinese government. There are already alternatives to Oatly so no need to buy them anymore.
- Findecanor 3y agoEven as a vegetarian, I don't understand the appeal of milk substitutes. I use cow's milk for one thing: I put it in my coffee because it is a buffer solution which lowers the perceived acidity of the coffee and therefore gives it a milder taste. I've seen Oatly as an option at vegetarian coffee shops, but it does not have that chemical property of cow's milk, and adding it to coffee just makes it taste worse.
- aosaigh 3y agoA lot of people are lactose intolerant
- madeofpalk 3y agoI’m not lactose intolerant (I think) but milk in my coffee often does make me feel… bleh. I switched to oat milk (Oatly), didn’t mind the minor difference in taste, and I don’t get that feeling that milk gave me.
- INTPenis 3y agoI eat anything, but even I can recognize the cruelty of milk production. A cow won't produce milk unless it has had a calf, so cows need to be kept in near-perpetual state of pregnancy in order to keep producing milk.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y agoThe information about Glebe Gate is contradictory. > This was a lawsuit about copyright infringement and then their replies mention that they were defending their trademark. It appears that it was trademark related and not about copyright infringement which to my mind is far more acceptable. Companies have to defend their trademarks to keep them "active", but copyright infringement can be ignored by the owners if they wish.
- tompccs 3y agoA few years ago I had a strange experience of sitting through a gig in an East London pub while a hipster "sang" a spoken word song about Deptford (where he had moved to) and how the pre-existing community there has been ravaged by an influx of hipsters pricing locals out and replacing their community hubs with coffee shops. Notable in this lament was that he included himself as part of the problem. It was a paean of self-hatred which of course elevated him above the rest of the people in his category - he saw himself as implicitly superior since he was the one calling himself out. The mainly young, white, middle class, female audience was wrapt in his performance. I couldn't stand more than a few minutes of it and left soon after arriving. I hadn't given it a second thought until seeing this shameless post-modern PR campaign on Hacker News.
- holistio 3y agoThis surely is an effective strategy - have I had read about Oatly + Blackstone elsewhere, I might have raised an eyebrow. Simply the fact that they own it makes it look less problematic. Note taken, this is how you handle controversies. It is bold. But being bold doesn't make you right, it just makes you bold. Important to remember that just owning it doesn't make the problems less real. They grow on Blackstone money. They market themselves to vegans and feed farm pigs on residue.
- once_inc 3y agoDon't forget that this site also allows them to cheekily lay down their side of the conflict, and what their reasonings were.
- vlaaad 3y agoSo this is a PRopaganda piece by Oatly that collects controversies surrounding them and tries to downplay them. I can't say it worked for me.
- pera 3y agoEh so they are making fun of their own customers because of their opinions regarding the "oaty" copyright case? Very weird PR campaign.
- elaus 3y agoI think it's good marketing, even though it probably won't make me personally buy their products anytime soon. But having a platform to respond to (preselected) criticism in a humorous way seems to be a good fit for the target audience. Loved the cascade of fck-sites in the footer: fckoatly.com, fckfckoatly.com, fckfckfckoatly.com, fckfckfckfckoatly.com, ...
- Incipient 3y agoAny idea where the phone number at the end goes?
- jordemort 3y agoBefore this, I had never heard of Oatly. Now that I have, I think they're obnoxious and annoying.
- Nonny1 3y ago[dead]