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Yokosuka becomes Japan's first city to use ChatGPT for administrative tasks

26 points by bemmu 3y ago

jesterson 3y ago
It's interesting how easily people succumb to IT (as in very generalised definition) thinking it's anything having superior knowledge. While it is nothing but a deceiving instrument, built on worst human biases and instincts. I am just lucky to be old and hopefully not see long term ramifications of this.
- 0dayz 3y ago
  It's for administrative tasks, not coming up with policy.
- anileated 3y ago
  I suspect that some places—e.g., with expansive bureaucracies and lacking motivation to reform & automate—could see LLMs fit in certain low-responsibility roles quite naturally. Bureaucratic resistance to revamping a process to get rid of %role% might be higher than resistance to putting an LLM in that %role% while maintaining the same process otherwise. That said, no civil service should use OpenAI’s commercial products out of privacy and ethical concerns if nothing else.
  - jesterson 3y ago
    You are right, however given natural human laziness we may see it cripping in other areas very fast - because why would anyone think about making decision if they can throw at chatgpt and get a response. I am not concerned about use cases you are referring to - it's realistically going to help, but long term implications would be disastrous.
- meh8881 3y ago
  It’s very interesting how old people think they have superior wisdom, when in fact they’ve merely grown confident on the worst human biases and instincts.
  - jesterson 3y ago
    I sense where you coming from my friend. Just suggest you learn humility first before making judgements. And some basic logic as well. Normally I would call out on "superior wisdom" but you tend to be quite predictable so we will speak this part. Cheers
0dayz 3y ago
I think ai is desperately needed in some countries when it comes to the government run entities (agencies and jobs) administration (thanks in large part to digitalization). Since it has created some rather extreme work imbalance for the workers where they spending more time on administrative work than actual work.
Nullabillity 3y ago
You have not been a good citizen. I have been a good Yokosuka. :)
tmm84 3y ago
Having lived in Japan for over a decade now I can say they have always been a culture that leaves things to computers if possible. Vending machines are everywhere and many places had vending machines that would give you a ticket to get a service or product from employees. In the last six months a few places I shop at have gone full self checkout (complete with those who couldn’t understand or work the machines causing slowdowns). However, having an AI tool run city hall is something of a bigger jump. The article doesn’t really go into detail on what it does. I wonder if they tried to hire humans first for decent pay or just had the unicorn hunt then concluded AI wins the job.

26 points by bemmu 3y ago

It's interesting how easily people succumb to IT (as in very generalised definition) thinking it's anything having superior knowledge. While it is nothing but a deceiving instrument, built on worst human biases and instincts. I am just lucky to be old and hopefully not see long term ramifications of this.

0dayz 3y ago
It's for administrative tasks, not coming up with policy.
anileated 3y ago
I suspect that some places—e.g., with expansive bureaucracies and lacking motivation to reform & automate—could see LLMs fit in certain low-responsibility roles quite naturally. Bureaucratic resistance to revamping a process to get rid of %role% might be higher than resistance to putting an LLM in that %role% while maintaining the same process otherwise. That said, no civil service should use OpenAI’s commercial products out of privacy and ethical concerns if nothing else.
- jesterson 3y ago
  You are right, however given natural human laziness we may see it cripping in other areas very fast - because why would anyone think about making decision if they can throw at chatgpt and get a response. I am not concerned about use cases you are referring to - it's realistically going to help, but long term implications would be disastrous.
meh8881 3y ago
It’s very interesting how old people think they have superior wisdom, when in fact they’ve merely grown confident on the worst human biases and instincts.
- jesterson 3y ago
  I sense where you coming from my friend. Just suggest you learn humility first before making judgements. And some basic logic as well. Normally I would call out on "superior wisdom" but you tend to be quite predictable so we will speak this part. Cheers

0dayz 3y ago

I think ai is desperately needed in some countries when it comes to the government run entities (agencies and jobs) administration (thanks in large part to digitalization). Since it has created some rather extreme work imbalance for the workers where they spending more time on administrative work than actual work.

Nullabillity 3y ago

You have not been a good citizen. I have been a good Yokosuka. :)

tmm84 3y ago

Having lived in Japan for over a decade now I can say they have always been a culture that leaves things to computers if possible. Vending machines are everywhere and many places had vending machines that would give you a ticket to get a service or product from employees. In the last six months a few places I shop at have gone full self checkout (complete with those who couldn’t understand or work the machines causing slowdowns). However, having an AI tool run city hall is something of a bigger jump. The article doesn’t really go into detail on what it does. I wonder if they tried to hire humans first for decent pay or just had the unicorn hunt then concluded AI wins the job.