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Yeah I really hate this line of argument as well. We obviously understand it can have a lot of beneficial effects in society. It's a strawman to say that people

Yeah I really hate this line of argument as well. We obviously understand it can have a lot of beneficial effects in society. It's a strawman to say that people don't see that. The problem is nobody seems to be properly discussing the bad things that can and will occur.

chatgtpsux 3y ago
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bugglebeetle 3y ago
We can of course also judge the track record on this kind of techno-optimist rhetoric. People expressed all the same lofty ideals about social media, almost all of which have been outweighed by what we really got: anger-driven addiction, micro-targeted propaganda, turn-key state surveillance, and teenagers attempting suicide at all time highs.
- nullsense 3y ago
  Now take that and 100x it.
- brigadier132 3y ago
  > People expressed all the same lofty ideals about social media Who (that wasn't a billionaire owner of a social media company)? Also, major strawman.
brigadier132 3y ago
> We obviously understand it can have a lot of beneficial effects in society Really? Because nobody seems to be talking about them. You talk about how bad things "will" occur. What about bad things that are literally happening right now?
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > What about bad things that are literally happening right now? Our lives are good. No child loses sleep for the bogeyman under the neighbor's bed.
  - deleted 3y ago
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- ChatGTP 3y ago
  Do you think throwing “AI” problems at scale into this mix is a good thing to do right now ?
- xiphias2 3y ago
  Maybe think of the children. Why should they go to school at all? Why should they study? What should they study? What should I tell them? A person who works in tourism just told me that he wants to learn something safer, because he had no job during COVID, so he started studying web design. All I could tell him is that that job has peaked, and I believe tourism is safer at this point.
  - Turing_Machine 3y ago
    What will all the serfs and slaves do for a living, now that we have tractors and combine harvesters? I mean, that's > 90% of all jobs! How will we cope with 90% unemployment? (it should be obvious that this is not serious... humanity has survived "machines are taking all the jobs" many times before, and it will survive this one too)
  - birdyrooster 3y ago
    Maybe they shouldn’t? Jesus what is with people shaming others for not attaining some arbitrary level of education and career?
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      Ok so what will they be doing instead ?
      - yellowapple 3y ago
        Playing? Actually enjoying their childhoods?
        ChatGTP 3y ago
        Then, where do they get money from and food, will that be provided for fee by AGIs? Who will own the AGI systems ? How will they ensure they’re in alignment with the children’s goals ?
        3y ago

chatgtpsux 3y ago

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bugglebeetle 3y ago

We can of course also judge the track record on this kind of techno-optimist rhetoric. People expressed all the same lofty ideals about social media, almost all of which have been outweighed by what we really got: anger-driven addiction, micro-targeted propaganda, turn-key state surveillance, and teenagers attempting suicide at all time highs.

nullsense 3y ago
Now take that and 100x it.
brigadier132 3y ago
> People expressed all the same lofty ideals about social media Who (that wasn't a billionaire owner of a social media company)? Also, major strawman.

brigadier132 3y ago

> We obviously understand it can have a lot of beneficial effects in society Really? Because nobody seems to be talking about them. You talk about how bad things "will" occur. What about bad things that are literally happening right now?

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> What about bad things that are literally happening right now? Our lives are good. No child loses sleep for the bogeyman under the neighbor's bed.
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ChatGTP 3y ago
Do you think throwing “AI” problems at scale into this mix is a good thing to do right now ?
xiphias2 3y ago
Maybe think of the children. Why should they go to school at all? Why should they study? What should they study? What should I tell them? A person who works in tourism just told me that he wants to learn something safer, because he had no job during COVID, so he started studying web design. All I could tell him is that that job has peaked, and I believe tourism is safer at this point.
- Turing_Machine 3y ago
  What will all the serfs and slaves do for a living, now that we have tractors and combine harvesters? I mean, that's > 90% of all jobs! How will we cope with 90% unemployment? (it should be obvious that this is not serious... humanity has survived "machines are taking all the jobs" many times before, and it will survive this one too)
- birdyrooster 3y ago
  Maybe they shouldn’t? Jesus what is with people shaming others for not attaining some arbitrary level of education and career?
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    Ok so what will they be doing instead ?
    - yellowapple 3y ago
      Playing? Actually enjoying their childhoods?
      - ChatGTP 3y ago
        Then, where do they get money from and food, will that be provided for fee by AGIs? Who will own the AGI systems ? How will they ensure they’re in alignment with the children’s goals ?
        3y ago