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> What your post comes across as, to me anyway, is that you want drugs to be a bad thing. I am curious how you could interpret that.

_a_a_a_ 4y ago
> I wish more people spoke about their negative experiences with psychedelics. that > It's a sobering and necessary counterpoint... and that.
- hammyhavoc 4y ago
  I don't think drugs are good or bad. The intent behind why and how people use them is what counts. However, if people want these things to see progress in acceptance and safe use, hearing anecdata from all demographics is important, including those with negative experiences. One thing that people didn't want to talk about with the cannabis legalization boom was how common paranoid schizophrenia is. My step-father has marijuana-induced paranoid schizophrenia, I have a few other friends also diagnosed with the same thing. For all the good that it has done for x demographics, it has damaged y demographics irreparably. A future of powerful and debilitating prescription drugs to treat their schizophrenia is what they have to look forward to now, they are objectively worse off for it and classified as legally disabled.
  - _a_a_a_ 4y ago
    > including those with negative experiences Nobody is hiding negative experiences. Again, you come across as wanting more badness than perhaps there actually is. <A paragraph about personal knowledge of drug damage > Yes, we know about this kind of thing . I personally know of alcohol deaths, permanent damage from amphetamines, addiction to cannabis, and second-hand reports of mental illness from cannabis abuse (note: abuse not use), anecdotal but reliable reports about mental damage from LSD. These conversations are happening. You seem only receptive to the negative side of things.
- rybosworld 3y ago
  It's not at all clear to me that those statements are promoting a "drugs are bad" narrative. Discussing negative experiences is inherent to an honest conversation.

_a_a_a_ 4y ago

> I wish more people spoke about their negative experiences with psychedelics. that > It's a sobering and necessary counterpoint... and that.

hammyhavoc 4y ago
I don't think drugs are good or bad. The intent behind why and how people use them is what counts. However, if people want these things to see progress in acceptance and safe use, hearing anecdata from all demographics is important, including those with negative experiences. One thing that people didn't want to talk about with the cannabis legalization boom was how common paranoid schizophrenia is. My step-father has marijuana-induced paranoid schizophrenia, I have a few other friends also diagnosed with the same thing. For all the good that it has done for x demographics, it has damaged y demographics irreparably. A future of powerful and debilitating prescription drugs to treat their schizophrenia is what they have to look forward to now, they are objectively worse off for it and classified as legally disabled.
- _a_a_a_ 4y ago
  > including those with negative experiences Nobody is hiding negative experiences. Again, you come across as wanting more badness than perhaps there actually is. <A paragraph about personal knowledge of drug damage > Yes, we know about this kind of thing . I personally know of alcohol deaths, permanent damage from amphetamines, addiction to cannabis, and second-hand reports of mental illness from cannabis abuse (note: abuse not use), anecdotal but reliable reports about mental damage from LSD. These conversations are happening. You seem only receptive to the negative side of things.
rybosworld 3y ago
It's not at all clear to me that those statements are promoting a "drugs are bad" narrative. Discussing negative experiences is inherent to an honest conversation.