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I am always surprised by the amount of people on HN who just put out statements like "it exists" without any explanation, as if it informs anyone of anything el

I am always surprised by the amount of people on HN who just put out statements like "it exists" without any explanation, as if it informs anyone of anything else but the implicit "[I am convinced that] it exists". Like, why? Can you share any more information? Some reasons on why you're convinced of that statement? Or do you consider yourself so important that you expect your opinions to be taken as real arguments, as facts, as something self-evident?

smrtinsert 4y ago
Maybe because it takes the bare minimum of effort to find information on it. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html?s_cid=11840:long%20covid:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY23 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/...
- bheadmaster 4y ago
  A website written by a US government agency doesn't convince me that there's a disease out there which has exactly the same symptoms as being locked inside the house for months, and whose only method of detection is through those symptoms.
bsder 4y ago
Maybe because everybody who has relatives over 50 knows somebody with Long Covid--probably multiple people. What I don't believe is that this kind of syndrome is specific to Covid, I suspect it holds for every serious virus you get infected with. The only difference this time is that the medical community is watching. The fact that Epstein-Barr is causative with MS and HPV is causative with cervical cancer shows that the damage that even fairly mild virii do persists for a very long time. Any claim that a virus doesn't cause persistent damage simply means you haven't looked very hard.
- tssva 4y ago
  I am 54 and have living parents, aunts, uncles and cousins which are significantly older. The majority of my friends are over 50. I don't know anyone with long COVID.
  - MrMan 4y ago
    the only people I know with long anything are people who had chronic fatigue and long lyme disease but these two or three people are all wealthy neurotics
- TexanFeller 4y ago
  > Maybe because everybody who has relatives over 50 knows somebody with Long Covid--probably multiple people. Of the dozens of people in my extended family that are 50+yo, few of whom were covid cautious, zero of them have reported symptoms resembling long covid. My parents are elderly as are all of the people they know. Zero of their friends have reported long covid, but they did know a couple of folks that died of it.
lamontcg 4y ago
After nearly three years of arguing about it, I'm done with that. Spend your own time looking up answers, that isn't my job. (Actually considering I've known about post-viral ME/CFS since sometime in the early-90s that makes it going on nearly 30 years of knowing about it. And I'm deeply uninterested in wasting my life debating about it with internet strangers.)
- bheadmaster 4y ago
  Considering your willingness to write out your opinions and "correct" people who are expressing skepticism, you obviously aren't done arguing about it, you're just done doing that in any non-obnoxious way.
- thehappypm 4y ago
  Why comment at all?

smrtinsert 4y ago

Maybe because it takes the bare minimum of effort to find information on it. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html?s_cid=11840:long%20covid:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY23 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/...

bheadmaster 4y ago
A website written by a US government agency doesn't convince me that there's a disease out there which has exactly the same symptoms as being locked inside the house for months, and whose only method of detection is through those symptoms.

bsder 4y ago

Maybe because everybody who has relatives over 50 knows somebody with Long Covid--probably multiple people. What I don't believe is that this kind of syndrome is specific to Covid, I suspect it holds for every serious virus you get infected with. The only difference this time is that the medical community is watching. The fact that Epstein-Barr is causative with MS and HPV is causative with cervical cancer shows that the damage that even fairly mild virii do persists for a very long time. Any claim that a virus doesn't cause persistent damage simply means you haven't looked very hard.

tssva 4y ago
I am 54 and have living parents, aunts, uncles and cousins which are significantly older. The majority of my friends are over 50. I don't know anyone with long COVID.
- MrMan 4y ago
  the only people I know with long anything are people who had chronic fatigue and long lyme disease but these two or three people are all wealthy neurotics
TexanFeller 4y ago
> Maybe because everybody who has relatives over 50 knows somebody with Long Covid--probably multiple people. Of the dozens of people in my extended family that are 50+yo, few of whom were covid cautious, zero of them have reported symptoms resembling long covid. My parents are elderly as are all of the people they know. Zero of their friends have reported long covid, but they did know a couple of folks that died of it.

lamontcg 4y ago

After nearly three years of arguing about it, I'm done with that. Spend your own time looking up answers, that isn't my job. (Actually considering I've known about post-viral ME/CFS since sometime in the early-90s that makes it going on nearly 30 years of knowing about it. And I'm deeply uninterested in wasting my life debating about it with internet strangers.)

bheadmaster 4y ago
Considering your willingness to write out your opinions and "correct" people who are expressing skepticism, you obviously aren't done arguing about it, you're just done doing that in any non-obnoxious way.
thehappypm 4y ago
Why comment at all?