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Same exact complaint. I'm fine with snaps existing. I'm even fine with it being the default. But I should be able to easily avoid using them, and apt sure as

Same exact complaint. I'm fine with snaps existing. I'm even fine with it being the default. But I should be able to easily avoid using them, and apt sure as hell shouldn't be tricking people into them. The fact that they had to even do that shows that people didn't want them.

selivanovp 4y ago
Not really. Apt installs snaps in some cases not because they’re tricking people, but because said package is either abandoned by Canonical team like firefox (Mozilla creates snaps for it, so neither Canonical nor Mozilla have to build debs for all the Ubuntu flavors and supported versions anymore), or created so people can help Canonical to test technology like it was with gnome-calculator several years ago.
- saurik 4y ago
  Then the package should just not exist in apt and you can go install it with snap instead? I'm just learning about this idea that I might use apt and somehow end up with a snap from this thread :(.
npteljes 4y ago
Apt does this "tricking" with other stuff too, often just distributing an installer that contacts a third party endpoint which downloads the real installer.
- bravetraveler 4y ago
  How is the dpkg database remotely sane if this is the case? The package manager is the installer, and the package is the archive to install. This seems ridiculous
  - npteljes 4y ago
    To me, it doesn't make sense for apt the database, but it makes sense for apt the universal installer.