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Ubuntu feels like the macOS of Linux distros. Debian still feels like... a Linux distro. I haven't used Ubuntu in awhile though maybe I should try again just to

by dcow 4y ago

Ubuntu feels like the macOS of Linux distros. Debian still feels like... a Linux distro. I haven't used Ubuntu in awhile though maybe I should try again just to compare to my Debian machine.

pmontra 4y ago
I switched from Ubuntu 20.04 to Debian 11 at the end of 2022. If you gave me the updated laptop without telling me anything I'm not sure that I'd notice any difference.
- ithrow 4y ago
  How do you handle chromium in Debian stable? It always lags behind significantly behind chromium/chrome releases.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    The trick: Don't use Debian Stable, use Testing. Despite it's name compared to "stable", Testing is pretty stable in my experience. - Chrome Stable - 112.0.5615.137 - Debian Bullseye (stable) - 108.0.5359.94 - Debian Bookworm (testing) - 112.0.5615.49 Most people I know who run Debian for personal desktops uses Testing, not Stable. Vice-versa for servers.
    - doubled112 4y ago
      The security repo that is added by default has newer Chromium packages https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/chromium https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/c... - buster 90.0.4430.212-1~deb10u1 - bullseye 108.0.5359.94-1~deb11u1 - bullseye (security) 112.0.5615.121-1~deb11u1 - bookworm 112.0.5615.49-2 - sid 112.0.5615.138-1
  - skovati 4y ago
    My philosophy has been to let the distro package manager handle system packages (kernel, OpenSSL, etc) but then use flatpak [1] to install user progs like Chromium and VSCode so I get bleeding edge releases and sandboxing. [1] https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.chromium.Chromium https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.chromium.Chromium
    - wmf 4y ago
      And by bleeding edge you mean stable.
  - forty 4y ago
    I use Firefox ESR with Debian stable + backports, and the internet seems to work as far as I can tell (I'm not doing anything fancy with it though)
  - pmontra 4y ago
    I use Firefox and I switch to Google Chrome for the very few cases when it's too difficult to make a web site work with Firefox plus all the privacy addons I added to it, maybe not every month. I think I downloaded the installer from Google and I got this deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list now.

by dcow 4y ago

Ubuntu feels like the macOS of Linux distros. Debian still feels like... a Linux distro. I haven't used Ubuntu in awhile though maybe I should try again just to compare to my Debian machine.

pmontra 4y ago

I switched from Ubuntu 20.04 to Debian 11 at the end of 2022. If you gave me the updated laptop without telling me anything I'm not sure that I'd notice any difference.

ithrow 4y ago
How do you handle chromium in Debian stable? It always lags behind significantly behind chromium/chrome releases.
- capableweb 4y ago
  The trick: Don't use Debian Stable, use Testing. Despite it's name compared to "stable", Testing is pretty stable in my experience. - Chrome Stable - 112.0.5615.137 - Debian Bullseye (stable) - 108.0.5359.94 - Debian Bookworm (testing) - 112.0.5615.49 Most people I know who run Debian for personal desktops uses Testing, not Stable. Vice-versa for servers.
  - doubled112 4y ago
    The security repo that is added by default has newer Chromium packages https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/chromium https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/c... - buster 90.0.4430.212-1~deb10u1 - bullseye 108.0.5359.94-1~deb11u1 - bullseye (security) 112.0.5615.121-1~deb11u1 - bookworm 112.0.5615.49-2 - sid 112.0.5615.138-1
- skovati 4y ago
  My philosophy has been to let the distro package manager handle system packages (kernel, OpenSSL, etc) but then use flatpak [1] to install user progs like Chromium and VSCode so I get bleeding edge releases and sandboxing. [1] https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.chromium.Chromium https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.chromium.Chromium
  - wmf 4y ago
    And by bleeding edge you mean stable.
- forty 4y ago
  I use Firefox ESR with Debian stable + backports, and the internet seems to work as far as I can tell (I'm not doing anything fancy with it though)
- pmontra 4y ago
  I use Firefox and I switch to Google Chrome for the very few cases when it's too difficult to make a web site work with Firefox plus all the privacy addons I added to it, maybe not every month. I think I downloaded the installer from Google and I got this deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list now.