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Please buy a minivan if this is your situation.
by pharmakom 4y ago
Please buy a minivan if this is your situation.
- yellowapple 4y agoWhile I largely agree with you, AWD/4WD minivans seem to be harder to find than AWD/4WD SUVs - so if you live in a place with both snow and hills, you're probably going to be gravitating toward an SUV.
- SkyPuncher 4y agoAWS/4WD drive can't be pulled off with a minivan while maintaining the flat floor that people expect. There's not enough clearance for a rear drive shaft.
- yellowapple 4y agoI mean, it clearly can be, since AWD (and RWD, for that matter) minivans do exist. It's just less common for minivans than it is for SUVs, likely for the reason you mention.
- SkyPuncher 4y agoSorry, yes. It's technically feasible. However, practically, it's not. Within the modern minivan sector, it'd be a non-starter to have a transmission tunnel when all of your competitors don't have that.
- yellowapple 4y ago> when all of your competitors don't have that Aside from the Chrysler Pacifica, which does offer a traditional AWD (to this day AFAIK), presumably with the requisite transmission tunnel. There's also the Toyota Sienna, which gets away with AWD by using an electric motor for the rear wheels. Hopefully this continues to catch on.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y agoI kinda want to take a picture of the parking lot at a local (Salt Lake County, UT) Costco. It's almost exclusively "light truck"-classified pickups and similarly sized SUVs. I'm sure a similar image has already been captured for posterity but damn if it wouldn't be useful for pointing to a problem.
- Kon-Peki 4y agoYou can buy Kei vans too. I've seen them, in the USA. Same import rules as the Kei trucks. When I lived in Chicago, a neighbor had one. It was 4x4 too, so great in the winter.
- kalleboo 4y agoI have kids, we drive a Kei minivan. They only seat 4, so it wouldn't work for a family of 5-6 as in the example.
- HeyLaughingBoy 4y agoWhy? What do you care what he drives?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y agohttps://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/2020-traffic-crash-data-fatalities https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/2020-traffic-crash-data... > The estimated number of police-reported crashes in 2020 decreased by 22% as compared to 2019, and the estimated number of people injured declined by 17%. > While the number of crashes and traffic injuries declined overall, fatal crashes increased by 6.8%. It's at least a somewhat common belief that the 6.8% increase of fatal crashes despite a decrease in total crashes is caused by a perceived increase of the average size of vehicles on the road. A minivan is not an American-sized pickup truck which are commonly seen as unsafe for other drivers.
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- yamtaddle 4y agoCars much bigger, heavier, and with worse visibility than necessary, make the roads more dangerous for everyone else—motorists, bicyclists, pedestrians, everyone. The whole thing's turning into an expensive, dangerous game of prisoner's dilemma. It's best if everyone buys exactly as much car as they need, but anyone who "defects" and buys a bigger, heavier car is safer than everyone else, while making everyone else a little less-safe. Iterate for a few decades and you get the current situation. However, begging individuals to behave differently isn't going to fix the problem. Certainly not in the US.