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> I want to pay for my Linux. Go for it: https://ubuntu.com/pro/subscribe https://ubuntu.com/pro/subscribe.

eastbound 4y ago
We need a serious talk about that attitude. It’s been systematic that each time someone says “I’d pay for a good linux”, they’re given the link as if to assume we’re not already paying. You forgot that I want a nice OS in exchange. Moreover, I left Ubuntu. It’s software that I can’t be convinced to use even if it were free. Canonical’s choices (with Unity at the time, but also the mouse issue, and so on) are of the rare kind that they can convince someone to uninstall it and go buy 2x more expensive hardware to run macOS. What’s missing is, I’d pay good money, but I don’t want to fiddle around with the OS. I’d pay for the betterment of the OS, but with distribs, if you pay, you’re still not the customer. And I pay for Debian. But it’s not my desktop OS.
- rad_gruchalski 4y ago
  > We need a serious talk about that attitude. > It’s been systematic that each time someone says “I’d pay for a good linux”, they’re given the link as if to assume we’re not already paying. Sorry, maybe I misunderstood what you said. You said that "you want to pay". "Wanting to pay" kind of implies that you don't pay today but you would if given an option. I simply thought you were being a jerk. Thanks for clarifying. No offence. > You forgot that I want a nice OS in exchange. Ah, special wishes. The guy next to you wants something that looks like ... beos. Or windows. It's all customizable. You know how it works because > And I pay for Debian. But it’s not my desktop OS. You don't want to, you already pay for some Linux distribution. Apologies, it's difficult to predict what you wanted to say when so much context is missing :)
  - eastbound 4y ago
    All of this was addressed in my first message. Especially the idea that Linux customers having special requests should rather shut up. Everyone has special requests, especially around the idea of having a decent UI that doesn’t make you lose heaps of time with Linux, and as I said, what Linux lacks is proper PMs and marketing guys who would sort and address these UX issues. And fewer obnoxious mobs who just give you the link to pay up and ask you to shut up about your special requests.

We need a serious talk about that attitude. It’s been systematic that each time someone says “I’d pay for a good linux”, they’re given the link as if to assume we’re not already paying. You forgot that I want a nice OS in exchange. Moreover, I left Ubuntu. It’s software that I can’t be convinced to use even if it were free. Canonical’s choices (with Unity at the time, but also the mouse issue, and so on) are of the rare kind that they can convince someone to uninstall it and go buy 2x more expensive hardware to run macOS. What’s missing is, I’d pay good money, but I don’t want to fiddle around with the OS. I’d pay for the betterment of the OS, but with distribs, if you pay, you’re still not the customer. And I pay for Debian. But it’s not my desktop OS.

rad_gruchalski 4y ago
> We need a serious talk about that attitude. > It’s been systematic that each time someone says “I’d pay for a good linux”, they’re given the link as if to assume we’re not already paying. Sorry, maybe I misunderstood what you said. You said that "you want to pay". "Wanting to pay" kind of implies that you don't pay today but you would if given an option. I simply thought you were being a jerk. Thanks for clarifying. No offence. > You forgot that I want a nice OS in exchange. Ah, special wishes. The guy next to you wants something that looks like ... beos. Or windows. It's all customizable. You know how it works because > And I pay for Debian. But it’s not my desktop OS. You don't want to, you already pay for some Linux distribution. Apologies, it's difficult to predict what you wanted to say when so much context is missing :)
- eastbound 4y ago
  All of this was addressed in my first message. Especially the idea that Linux customers having special requests should rather shut up. Everyone has special requests, especially around the idea of having a decent UI that doesn’t make you lose heaps of time with Linux, and as I said, what Linux lacks is proper PMs and marketing guys who would sort and address these UX issues. And fewer obnoxious mobs who just give you the link to pay up and ask you to shut up about your special requests.